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Re:Show HN: Ethical Resources – 300 ethical alternatives to ... by UncleMeat on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @09:21AM (#19614271)
But what if I don't want those things? I have never once personally edited the code in libreoffice. Open source isn't necessarily better than closed.

Monetization models are even less clear. What if I'd prefer to not pay with cash?

Re:Show HN: Ethical Resources – 300 ethical alternatives to ... by phaemon on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @09:27AM (#19614337)
I have never once personally written for a newspaper. Freedom of the press isn't necessarily better than censorship.
Re:Show HN: Ethical Resources – 300 ethical alternatives to ... by jeanlucas on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @10:59AM (#19615326)
That's a petty argument. Plenty of times open source projects lack resources, quality or maybe have a different focus than a non open source solution. You can't just assume open source is better than the other
Re:Show HN: Ethical Resources – 300 ethical alternatives to ... by phaemon on Wednesday April 10, 2019 @08:52AM (#19624084)
I didn't assume any such thing nor does my comment even suggest it.

If you find your own strawmen "petty" I suggest you try to think more clearly. It would likely improve the quality of your HN comments.

Re:Show HN: Ethical Resources – 300 ethical alternatives to ... by webmaven on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @11:39AM (#19615740)
it would probably help to assume an implied "all other things being equal" unless you have a specific unequality in mind that significantly reverses the balance of ethics in some common context.

A good example of such a reversal elsewhere in this thread is the "local butter better than imported vegan margarine made from palm oil grown in clear-cut rainforests" argument.

Personally, I extend that argument further, mostly for health reasons, but I'm not vegan.

Re:Show HN: Ethical Resources – 300 ethical alternatives to ... by mikestew on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @10:13AM (#19614838)
But what if I don't want those things?

When I see articles that don’t interest me, I close the tab, don’t go post contrarian comments to the originating forum, and then get on with my day. This technique has worked well for me over the years, you might give it a shot.

Re:Show HN: Ethical Resources – 300 ethical alternatives to ... by m12k on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @09:26AM (#19614321)
Then this page is not for you. If you think a lot of people would prefer your definition of ethical products over the one OP linked, then feel free to make a competing page.
Re:Show HN: Ethical Resources – 300 ethical alternatives to ... by sbuk on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @10:47AM (#19615200)
How exactly does this kind of snark help change opinion? Open Source is wonderful. I’m not a developer, but I use it and contribute in ways that I can. These sorts of replies fill me with rage! Replies like this categorically do not help further the cause. The GP of the whole thread has a point; whose ethics?

The post is about a website declaring that some software is more “ethical” than others. They offer no real criterion as to what constitutes “ethical”. The burden of proof lies with the publishers and those that fully support the notion. “Go away” neither helps or positively affects others views.

Re:Show HN: Ethical Resources – 300 ethical alternatives to ... by mcv on Tuesday April 09, 2019 @10:55AM (#19615294)
> whose ethics?

But is that not clear? The ethics of the person who made that list. You may not agree with it, and that's fine, but it's still useful to people who do agree with these ethics, or even with just some of them.

I do agree it'd be better if they offered some explanation about the basis of their selection, which would make it easier for people to determine if they agree with it or not, and it would certainly form a better starting point to discuss these ethics and suggest improvements. That they didn't include that explanation is absolutely very valid criticism.

But ultimately, if you don't agree with it, then this selection is not going to be relevant for you, is it?