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Re:Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airpo... by Diederich on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @11:18AM (#19564045)
Is it a risk if you stay in the airport, in the secure zone? (Whatever it's called...I've flown rarely over the past couple of decades.)
Re:Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airpo... by teh_klev on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @11:41AM (#19564271)
Yes, on a flight to and from New Zealand with a refuel/crew change in LA I was fingerprinted, retina scanned and asked about my personal business despite being held in the "secure" zone.

This was 2005 so they didn't have such a hard-on for electronic devices back then. Seeing as the US has upped its game quite a bit since then, the likelihood of me ever visiting the US is now zero. Sorry my fellow US HN'rs.

And you know it's such a shame because I had a trip to Boston in November 2002, and even with it being only just over a year since 9/11, my passage through customs was friction-less and the staff were delighted that we'd come to visit the US. No fingerprints, no eyeball scanning, no interrogation, just a friendly "business or pleasure, and enjoy your stay".

Re:Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airpo... by xnyan on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @01:14PM (#19565127)
If you're not being hassled in EU airports, it's because they already have your information. Not whataboutism, but most EU states and all the powerful ones have active, conservative intelligence and police that work closely with the United States and give them any information they want. Stay safe.

It's not just 5 countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

Re:Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airpo... by Cerium on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @11:23AM (#19564081)
All flights that stop in the USA require all passengers to clear customs before continuing their journey.
Re:Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airpo... by Diederich on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @12:07PM (#19564514)
I had no idea, thank you.
Re:Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airpo... by schoen on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @12:36PM (#19564804)
This is often called "sterile transit" (the ability to depart the airport without passing through immigration), and the U.S. and Mexico (and apparently Canada) don't allow this, while generally European and Asian countries do.

https://wikitravel.org/en/Avoiding_a_transit_of_the_United_S...

Re:Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airpo... by TheRealPomax on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @01:00PM (#19565010)
No EU airport allows this for flights from outside the EU/Schengen zone. Every international airport has dedicated "EU internal" and "all other" terminal pathways for this reason.
Re:Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airpo... by duskhen on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @01:15PM (#19565146)
Yes, they do. Unless I misinterpreted your comment, connection flights from outside EU to US/Canada don’t require the Schengen visa as passengers don’t leave the “clean” zone.
Re:Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airpo... by wang_li on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @01:15PM (#19565138)
I've had to go through security and immigration when flying through Dublin and Seoul. So I don't think you can exempt Europe and Asia from the list.
Re:Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airpo... by schoen on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @01:23PM (#19565227)
Were you flying to or from somewhere else in Europe in the Dublin case? A subtlety about this which has just come up elsewhere in this thread is that the whole Schengen Area is treated as a single "country" for immigration purposes, so if you have an intra-European flight, you have to enter or exit "Europe" in the course of a transfer to or from an external flight.

But I think if you fly, for example, from New York to Paris and then on to Tunis, you don't have to go through immigration controls in Paris.

Re:Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airpo... by wang_li on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @02:58PM (#19566144)
I was flying from Seattle to Rome with a connecting flight in Dublin. In both Rome and Dublin I had to go through immigration (that is, present my passport) and in Dublin I had my carry on X-rayed again. Upon arrival in Rome, after clearing immigration I had to go through customs, which is to say I walked out the "Nothing to Declare" portal.
Re:Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airpo... by schoen on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @03:14PM (#19566311)
Oh, I just remembered that Ireland isn't in the Schengen Area (due to the Common Travel Area with the UK). So you wouldn't have a domestic-style flight from Ireland to Italy. But your experience then does seem to confirm that Dublin doesn't offer sterile transit at all, which is a bit of a surprise to me.
Re:Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airpo... by angott on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @11:22AM (#19564071)
The US forces you to clear customs regardless of your final destination (transfers included).
Re:Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airpo... by cylinder on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @12:41PM (#19564833)
There is no transit visa to the US. Everyone landing goes through customs and immigration regardless of whether you are connecting to another flight.
Re:Ex-Mozilla CTO: I was grilled for three hours at US airpo... by barkingcat on Wednesday April 03, 2019 @12:18PM (#19564636)
Yes the secure zone is even more risky in my opinion.