Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me
by sabujp on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @11:31AM
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DRM are like locks on a house, just keeps honest people out
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Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me
by patagonia on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @11:40AM
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DRM are like locks on a gated community, just creates economic moats to enable rent seeking and prolong the status quo.
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me
by gloflo on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @11:38AM
(#19555268)
Except the lock is remotely controlled by your adversary.
And your house also belongs to them. According to your analogy.
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me
by psadauskas on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @12:13PM
(#19555681)
And if you bought something from them, they're permitted to come in and take it away from you whenever they want.
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me
by TeMPOraL on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @12:24PM
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You never bought it in the first place. The Adversary doesn't sell things anymore, it only rents them out.
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me
by est31 on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @12:35PM
(#19555955)
Sounds familiar. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19536991
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me
by tptacek on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @11:51AM
(#19555431)
Ok? That’s a strong argument in favor, isn’t it?
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me
by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @12:10PM
(#19555636)
You've missed the joke. In the DRM case the honest people are the ones who should be allowed in, but the DRM only allows the pirates in.
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me
by tptacek on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @03:27PM
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No, I think you’ve missed my point. A technology that prevents generally honest people from slipping casually into dishonesty sounds valuable. Battling people who are determined to be dishonest sounds much less valuable.
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me
by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @06:26PM
(#19559180)
Making a personal copy of a video you've paid for is in no way dishonest, and the user downloading it from a pirate site without paying is in no way impeded by DRM.
The only thing it could even arguably be doing is preventing users from uploading videos to pirate sites, but that is empirically a massive failure given that all of the videos are already on the pirate sites.
So all you're doing is battling the honest people who have paid and then want to make a copy for format shifting or some other fair use. And the legitimate value of battling that is a negative number.
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me
by Zak on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @04:54PM
(#19558468)
I suppose in the case of Netflix and the like, it stops me from getting some lossless downloader browser extension that would surely exist but for the DRM and... what? Getting stuff to watch after I let the subscription lapse? Giving copies to my friends?
The former is about the same effort as torrenting and about as obviously dishonest. The latter is mostly possible using Netflix as intended as long as I don't mind sharing my password with them.
Re:I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me
by microcolonel on Tuesday April 02, 2019 @12:20PM
(#19555763)
More like locks on a motel room.