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Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by jamescridland on Thursday March 28, 2019 @08:10AM (#19511367)
That's not quite what happens. https://podnews.net/article/bbc-blocks-google does go into the actual user experience, rather than what the BBC is claiming.
Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by atonse on Thursday March 28, 2019 @08:18AM (#19511424)
But this brings up a good point. What is the value of google showing you the play buttons in the search results? They're trying to keep you on google's site.
Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by TheCraiggers on Thursday March 28, 2019 @08:26AM (#19511477)
>They're trying to keep you on google's site.

But why? I don't see a financial motivator here, unless there is some long-game that I'm not aware of. In theory, driving users to websites in a search result is likely just going to make Google more money from displaying ads.

The only thing I can currently think of is they actually are trying to improve the user experience.

Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by dagw on Thursday March 28, 2019 @11:52AM (#19513392)
But why? I don't see a financial motivator here

If you listen via Google they not only know what you listened to but for how long you listened, which parts you skipped over or stopped listening at, and whether you listened to the ads or not. All that information has value to them. Being able to say these people googled your product within 72 hours of hearing your ad on these podcasts is very valuable.

Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by ForHackernews on Thursday March 28, 2019 @08:42AM (#19511591)
Why does Google do anything? They want to keep you on Google properties longer, record more "engagement" data and use it to sell ads against you.

Maybe they indirectly want to 'improve user experience' (so you're less likely to leave) but it's not their terminal value.

Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by msquog on Thursday March 28, 2019 @08:49AM (#19511631)
The adverts are right there on the page still.

Why would it be more profitable to send users to the BBC website?

Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by Mindwipe on Thursday March 28, 2019 @10:51AM (#19512717)
It wouldn't in the BBC's specific case, but in general the behaviour sending users to the site where they would likely be exposed to more advertising (probably by Google) would be the more profitable scenario.
Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by untog on Thursday March 28, 2019 @11:12AM (#19512946)
It's pretty clearly not the path Google has followed for some years now, though. They clearly have incentive to keep people on the search results page.
Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by fenwick67 on Thursday March 28, 2019 @08:41AM (#19511577)
If you stay on a search results page you're more likely to do another search after you're done listening, rather than browsing around on BBC's site.
Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by beaner on Thursday March 28, 2019 @08:59AM (#19511717)
It is also a better use experience.
Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by Mindwipe on Thursday March 28, 2019 @10:52AM (#19512724)
I'd be fairly surprised if the metrics resulted in any measurable difference there tbh.
Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by captn3m0 on Thursday March 28, 2019 @11:21AM (#19513062)
Even a minute change in this might convert to a non trivial difference in ad revenue for this feature.

This is the company that decides shades of blue by conversion numbers.

Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by jamescridland on Thursday March 28, 2019 @06:06PM (#19517104)
Either:

1. You see a podcast you're interested in

2. You go to the BBC's website

3. You discover you need to download BBC Sounds (if in the UK)

4. You download the app

5. You register with a username and password (and UK postcode, which narrows you down to the street where you live)

6. You press play and start listening

or

1. You see a podcast you're interested in

2. You press play and start listening

Wouldn't anyone prefer #2? Including the BBC's programme makers?

Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by RugnirViking on Saturday March 30, 2019 @03:26PM (#19531267)
Yes. thats why the podcasts are available on wide range of services not owned by google, for example my preferred client at the moment, spotify.
Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by jscholes on Thursday March 28, 2019 @12:21PM (#19513675)
> though BBC Sounds remains unavailable to non-UK listeners

I'm a non-UK listener and use the BBC Sounds app all the time. The only thing that's unavailable are program downloads.

Re:BBC podcasts on third-party apps by jamescridland on Thursday March 28, 2019 @06:15PM (#19517166)
The BBC Sounds app is only available within the UK. You may be talking about the BBC iPlayer Radio app, which is the only one available outside the country.

Unless you're side-loading on Android, which is perfectly possible too, but that's not quite "being available".