European Parliament approves copyright reform

Re:European Parliament approves copyright reform by geff82 on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @08:20AM (#19491036)

Switzerland is the current plan. It will enable me to keep my business in Germany while not living in CrazyLand myself. I also considered USA and Canada, yet this would mean more problems (at least at the beginning). I am quite familiar with Switzerland and I appreciate their special political system a lot.

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Re:European Parliament approves copyright reform by mweibel on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @08:30AM (#19491118)

Please note that there might be similar things happening in Switzerland, too:

https://www.digitale-gesellschaft.ch/2019/03/23/demonstratio...

(german only, sorry)

It's all a bit different than in the EU because people may be able to vote against that at some point.. Whether that happens is another question entirely, though.

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Re:European Parliament approves copyright reform by geff82 on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @08:57AM (#19491319)

I totally did not see this. Thank you for the warning. As I am not totally into politics, I thought that the stupidity of the EU would not be repeated by Switzerland. Honestly, if they do this, I can stay where I am and take some time to investigate the situation in the US or Canada again. Of course, only it Switzerland, there can be referendums, while in the EU we totally do not have them.

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Re:European Parliament approves copyright reform by Dumbdo on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @09:34AM (#19491611)

If a single law makes you switch countries you should overthink that decision. It's a bad law for sure, I even joined a demonstration against it, but it's like totally on a different scale than censorship in the Iran. Please inform yourself before making such statements.

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Re:European Parliament approves copyright reform by geff82 on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @09:47AM (#19491741)

I did not mean that the EU copies the brutally censored web of Iran, but that I heavily oppose any legislation that takes away any part of "free speech".

Indeed having any meaningful restriction of free speech or the possibility to express it (which this legislation is about) would make me switch countries. I think that close to limitless free speech is a total base of everything. Even if other laws are really bad, like let's say death penalty, I have to have the possibility to freely speak about it to make it go away. But I can not distribute my opinion about some bad law and maybe make it go away as long as the speech itself is restricted.

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Re:European Parliament approves copyright reform by nairboon on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @09:12AM (#19491438)

Don't worry, if such a law would pass here in Switzerland, we'll just make a referendum to get rid of it. I'll start it myself if I have to.

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Re:European Parliament approves copyright reform by toyg on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @12:38PM (#19493420)

> I thought that the stupidity of the EU would not be repeated by Switzerland

Switzerland is literally surrounded by the EU, which means it has to accept most of its regulations anyway, one way or another. See the freedom-of-movement capitulation.

It doesn't really matter anyway, these things sooner or later will land everywhere. The interests aligned behind are too big not to.

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Re:European Parliament approves copyright reform by morsch on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @08:26AM (#19491083)

That special political system is well on its way to restricting Internet access: https://steigerlegal.ch/2018/06/10/netzsperren-schweiz-zensu...

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Re:European Parliament approves copyright reform by jacquesm on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @10:04AM (#19491892)

If you want to move out of the sphere of influence of the copyright cartels you're going to have to achieve escape velocity at some point. Those places where copyright infringement is not going to result in repercussions are generally not worth living in.

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Re:European Parliament approves copyright reform by geff82 on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @10:35AM (#19492192)

While it might not seem so, I totally favor the enforcement of copyright laws (I still think they are over the top in their current form, but anyway, I am not against them). I just think that the individual user is responsible, not a platform. And this is what the big problem with all this is. We are living in a platform world as this eases things, yet they are given a task they can not possibly complete without essentially giving up on what they do). There will never be something like a European Youtube again, it is a financially impossible task now.

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Re:European Parliament approves copyright reform by jacquesm on Tuesday March 26, 2019 @12:00PM (#19493026)

There never was something like a European Youtube before, the closest we ever got was 'dailymotion' and that suffered greatly from France's idiotic policy of handing out money with strings attached to be able to veto exits to US companies.

Youtube became as big as it did whilst massively supporting copyright infringement, if not for Google they would have surely been killed. The bulk of the content on Youtube does not infringe copyright.

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