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Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by StavrosK on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @03:39AM (#19439829)
My experience with comments on my site has not been great. My general sense is that, beyond the occasional "thank you", which I appreciate but which is not very actionable, the best discourse happened by email anyway, and comments were mostly by people who wanted me to solve their problems for them.

I made my email address even more prominent and disabled comments on my site after realizing it would be a net improvement.

Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by StavrosK on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @06:51AM (#19440814)
I just remembered an important detail but I can't edit my parent comment to update: The reason I disabled comments was that I got lots of spam, and it wasn't worth spending time removing the spam comments for the few useful ones I got.
Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by hnarn on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @04:08AM (#19439958)
It wouldn't be HN if there wasn't a comment pointing out why the whole project is useless. I for one appreciate there being a lightweight alternative to proprietary, locked-in, cloud based services like Disqus, even if I don't personally and currently need a comment field on my website.
Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by tinus_hn on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @05:04AM (#19440245)
Don’t forget that Disqus is also a major tracking service, not as prevalent as Facebook buttons but with more semi legitimate functionality so you lose more if you block it.
Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by StavrosK on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @06:48AM (#19440786)
> It wouldn't be HN if there wasn't a comment pointing out why the whole project is useless.

It'd be great if you could point me to that comment, because I can't find it.

Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by chronogram on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @04:58AM (#19440206)
Strange comment? There wasn’t even mention of the project being useless.
Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by hnarn on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @01:23PM (#19444452)
If we're discussing semantics then you are correct, the literal word "useless" was never used, but it's obvious that the point of the comment is to state that there is -- in the end -- no need for this solution as more primitive solutions are already superior. This is a type of comment that is so common that it's a trope in itself, much more than the calling out of it is (as some here seems to argue).
Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by mercer on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @06:22AM (#19440644)
It wouldn't be hacker news if there wasn't eventually a comment pointing out that there's always a comment pointing out <x>.

It's fascinating to see this happen on both HN and Reddit, quite often even before 'comment pointing out <x>' is even posted.

This phenomenon reminds me a bit of the annoying fallacy-fallacy, or how any discussion involving -isms (capitalism, socialism) cannot be had without either or both parties pre-emptively defending against being accused of, say, the no-true-scotsman fallacy.

I've been wondering if this is a 'new' thing, or if we've always been having these increasingly meta conversations, or if perhaps I'm just getting old and tired of it.

Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by chronogram on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:21AM (#19441317)
Or maybe it’s because of internet points? Do you also see it happen in real life?
Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by mercer on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @09:13AM (#19441714)
In real life too.
Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by ykevinator on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:10AM (#19440898)
Ha
Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by dmos62 on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @05:11AM (#19440293)
On this note, what are some examples of comments providing considerable value?

I can think of: comments in torrent trackers, where comments sometimes provide useful information; and, if this even counts, forum sites, like Reddit or HN, where comments host discussions.

Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by StavrosK on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @06:51AM (#19440808)
Like children commenters said, comments are very useful if there's a community around your site. For my personal blog, comments were mostly "thanks" and sometimes angry comments about how I didn't like the thing they liked, although these were rare.

There were sometimes helpful corrections, but those came largely through email anyway, and, since I update the articles when I receive a correction, the corrective comments instantly became obsolete.

I just remembered the biggest reason why I removed comments: Spam. The added value wasn't significant enough (due to the reasons above) to warrant spending the time I spent removing span comments. Make a popular post and you'll get a whole bunch of "What a great post! Check out my thing: <thing>". I didn't want to spend more time moderating so I just disabled comments.

Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by orkon on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @05:32AM (#19440382)
I think comments provide value everywhere where there is a community. If you don't have a community around your website and only random strangers visit it, it won't offer considerable value. Although I cannot say that I have a community around my blog, I occasionally get useful comments with clarifying questions and additional information which helps me improve my content.
Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by josteink on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @05:49AM (#19440474)
For blog-posts which contains technical how-to information, the comments often contain corrections or other additional information which may be relevant for later releases or other distros.

I’ve certainly found that useful more than once.

Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by StavrosK on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @06:11AM (#19440576)
Yes, this is one example of useful comments. It's just that, for my site, those tended to be over email, which I generally respond to immediately, so it's equivalently useful.

Comment sections are especially good for sites which the author doesn't update, so you can read the correction in the comment.

Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by adrianN on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @05:37AM (#19440406)
Many blogs I frequent have highly interesting comments. For example on LanguageLog the comments are often more interesting than the articles.
Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by anc84 on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @10:49AM (#19442773)
At any blog that is not just made for marketing.
Re:Commento: Open-Source Disqus Alternative by icebraining on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:03AM (#19441210)
Shared blogs (those with multiple authors) and podcasts often have lively discussions in the comments. For example, http://www.econtalk.org/amy-tuteur-on-birth-natural-parentin...