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Re:Update on New Zealand by quink on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @06:04PM (#19436518)
Yes, yes, ban more groups (including flat earth, climate denial and anti-vaxxers) while also killing the filter bubbles and no.

These questions aren’t as hard as you think.

Re:Update on New Zealand by maxxxxx on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @06:37PM (#19436820)
"These questions aren’t as hard as you think."

Yes, just let's block whatever you don't like. What could go wrong?

Re:Update on New Zealand by quink on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @07:23PM (#19437227)
That’s just coincidental, it’s just that what I don’t like and complete disagreement with scientific consensus or harming people overlap.
Re:Update on New Zealand by eitland on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @01:28AM (#19439284)
Go 200, 300 or 400 year back.

Imagine a person like yourself, mainstream opinions, politically correct.

We now know he would be wrong on a number of things.

I mostly agree with you on a case-by-case basis it seems, but a little humility might be good.

Re:Update on New Zealand by bryan_w on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @02:41AM (#19439610)
You don't even have to go that far back. Just 20 years ago the idea that being gay was ok would get you treated like an anti-vaxer today.

Go back 50 years and "race mixing" was taboo.

Re:Update on New Zealand by quink on Friday March 22, 2019 @03:21AM (#19460239)
There was no broad scientific consensus about how being gay is bad 20 years ago. Banning from one particular private platform is fine, if people want to be anti-vaccination don't do it there, maybe it'll actually encourage them to stop wasting time on Facebook and contributing to the actual science.
Re:Update on New Zealand by quink on Friday March 22, 2019 @03:15AM (#19460226)
Scientific consensus didn't exist in anything like its current form 200, 300 or 400 years ago.
Re:Update on New Zealand by godzillabrennus on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @06:28PM (#19436724)
Where do you stop? Who decides what is banned? That seems like a hard question.
Re:Update on New Zealand by sampo on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @07:03PM (#19437054)
For example, there is an equally strong scientific consensus that GMO crops (and food) are safe, as there is about climate change being real. But there are lots of users right here in HN who would get upset if their anti-GMO opinions were banned the same as climate change denial and anti-vaxxer opinions.
Re:Update on New Zealand by secfirstmd on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @06:08PM (#19436565)
Well they get harder when certain governments abuse that power to stifle legitimate activists and journalists though:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/fac...

Re:Update on New Zealand by buboard on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @06:34PM (#19436786)
fine, but wouldn't you rather have all the idiots in a single walled garden? If they get out of there, it will be for a distributed platform from which nobody will be able to remove anything.
Re:Update on New Zealand by quink on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @07:41PM (#19437355)
Not really, there’s a new particularly vicious strand of radicalisation on the Internet and having the ability to make those hosting the content traceable and responsible through a fracturing of the community would be a boon, and that’s not really been happening with Facebook.

And I don’t think distributed or decentralised platforms aren’t even close to the alternative you think they are.

Re:Update on New Zealand by austhrow743 on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @08:12PM (#19437551)
They're going to take their discourse elsewhere. Best to just skip the whack a mole and put them in camps.
Re:Update on New Zealand by Pharmakon on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @08:34PM (#19437684)
Because of course, we all know that any regulation is part of an inevitable slide to “camps”. Come on, people who argue that always seem to miss just how much power a society has to change course, which is why that slippery slope is a fallacy and not predestination. I’m not hearing people opine that “today they came for the child abusers, tomorrow the Jews.” It’s a ridiculous premise, and it both oversells the threat of any action they’re ideologically opposed to, and undersells the power we all have to either promote or fight fascism.
Re:Update on New Zealand by quink on Tuesday March 19, 2019 @08:38PM (#19437718)
Sure they will. I'm perfectly fine with the whack-a-mole but detain anyone who's a credible threat to the physical safety of others.

I'm talking about limiting the freedom of anyone in theory talking about subjects in a way that results in physical violence or substantially harms society to the point of losing a substantial number of lives on one single private platform in large groups. I'm not talking about death camps, but the distinction seems to be lost on the crowd flitting down the slippery slope.