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Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by MichailP on Monday March 04, 2019 @03:36PM (#19305127)
Does this also mean that soon every computer will be making noise/radiating waves around 40GHz? Can someone with more depth in this area shine some light on this?
Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by 781 on Monday March 04, 2019 @03:45PM (#19305227)
PCI Express is already working at those data rates.
Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by DaiPlusPlus on Monday March 04, 2019 @04:06PM (#19305494)
Computer cases are electrically insulated.
Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by dingaling on Monday March 04, 2019 @05:48PM (#19306450)
As any radio amateur will tell you, PC shielding in the wild is generally poor. Plus the vast majority of PC RFI is radiated via the connected cables ( be that USB or the power cable ) or the monitor which form broad-spectrum antennas.

A PC and its appendages is a horrendous radio squawk-box and should be kept away from anything RFI-sensitive. The FCC 'must not cause harmful interference' clause is pretty worthless.

Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by gumby on Monday March 04, 2019 @04:17PM (#19305621)
Thunderbolt is PCIe.
Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by rjeli on Monday March 04, 2019 @08:00PM (#19307229)
Not quite: https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1097777102563074048

"Thunderbolt, uh, does not expose PCIe lanes directly. Thunderbolt is an MPLS-like packet switching network that can encapsulate PCIe TLPs over a PHY and MAC without a spec, chips without documentation, and software with barely any support."

Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by vardump on Monday March 04, 2019 @04:44PM (#19305887)
Thunderbolt encapsulates PCIe frames. It's not PCIe any more than say ethernet is UDP.
Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by gumby on Monday March 04, 2019 @04:18PM (#19305631)
The USB consortium is mostly EEs, and probably a majority analog EEs. I wouldn't worry about this.
Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by MichailP on Monday March 04, 2019 @03:38PM (#19305152)
One more question. Does this also mean that soon every computer will become software defined radio up to 40GHz?
Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by the8472 on Monday March 04, 2019 @03:48PM (#19305269)
No, they combine multiple lanes at a lower clock rate.

Additionally, the cables are twisted pair, which among other things minimizes emission. And high-speed cables are also supposed to be shielded.

Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by wmf on Monday March 04, 2019 @05:58PM (#19306512)
I think the signaling is more like 10 GHz and data is scrambled to spread EMI over a wide range.
Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by zzzcpan on Monday March 04, 2019 @03:43PM (#19305214)
USB cables are supposed to be shielded.
Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by nintendo1889 on Monday March 04, 2019 @03:54PM (#19305353)
Is tinfoil-hatesque EMF poisoning real?

I personally believe that it is real (just go camping where there's no service and you'll feel better) but it's hard to prove without decades of study and money, which won't happen because there's so much money to be made.

There are other reasons why camping makes you feel better. Earthing/grounding gets you in touch with the earth's natural schumann resonance (through the canvas tent) and the fresh air. Also too getting away from distractions.

There's a real study on this, but they don't speculate what the cause it: http://time.com/4656550/camping-sleep-insomnia/

Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by kiddico on Monday March 04, 2019 @04:01PM (#19305432)
Could that just be the feeling of being outdoors, and away from distractions for a while?
Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by brentonator on Monday March 04, 2019 @04:22PM (#19305667)
Stop thinking about it and go with your gut feeling. EMFs are clearly the only reason you would feel better camping. /s
Re:USB4 Specification Announced: Adopting Thunderbolt 3 Prot... by jotm on Monday March 04, 2019 @06:14PM (#19306615)
I dunno, but turning my home circuit breakers off does make me feel better