> Our terms of service reserve the right for us to terminate users of our network at our sole discretion.

By political pressure they mean pressure from a political entity, that is, a government. That's what I'm assuming anyways, I'd love for a Cloudflare representative to confirm.

"The tipping point for us making this decision was that the team behind Daily Stormer made the claim that we were secretly supporters of their ideology." Seems pretty clear to me?

I worked for Cloudflare when this happened, and this is the correct answer.

Maybe it should read "external political pressure"?

Yeah technically they terminated that one with no pressure.

I am hesitant to conflate actual neo-nazis with actual politics

They are actual politics, regardless of your or my beliefs. They vote, and if there are enough of them, someone will cater to them. To willfully ignore them is to ignore a sad reality, they will continue to grow unabated; to meaningfully engage them is to platform a disingenuous group (not to mention giving their beliefs acknowledgement).

It seems to be a catch-22 to me.

I'm arguing that people wanting the removal of a hate group who's largest purpose is the purge of specific ethnic groups is not a political matter, but a humanitarian one, therefore taking down Stormfront was not due to political pressure

The child porn guy also votes. Are you going to call that political too?

My now deceased great aunt married when she was 13 to a man of 33.

Now, we'd be screaming "PEDO" from the rooftops while calling for castration and prison, or even execution. What actually happened, was marrying when you were 13 as a female was the norm. It was OK. She had 4 children.. And if you asked her, had a wonderful life.

But in a fairly short time, social norms went from "Puberty means you're an adult, or darn near one" to 'pushing up the definitions of adulthood up to 21 year olds'. And in this case, the social norms were also backed by loads of well-meaning laws that end up being abhorrent in practice (how dare two 17 year olds sext pictures, but they can have as much sex as they want).

If you didn't learn from 2016, laws and words matter. A lot.

There were plenty of 13 year old child brides, but very few child husbands... Strange how the child brides never married another child. Until the 1940s it wasn't uncommon to see preteens and teens working hard labor, does that mean it was ever OK?

I also doubt it was ever the "norm" in the modern civilized world. A quote from wikipedia [1]:

"In the last decades of the [16th] century the age at marriage had climbed to averages of 25 for women and 27 for men in England..."

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_European_marriage_patt...

Neonazis/Daily Stormer was a canary.

I think back to the Skokie Nazi trial on how this should have played out. The Constitution wasn't for protecting when times and situations were good, but when they were off the rails and terribad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_Am...

Cloudflare tried to be this impartial "we're only a data delivery agent - we make no ethics claims of anyone who uses our service - we're a common carrier like service".... Except when it came down to the hard decisions, they sided in smashing the canary into tiny pieces.

Cloudflare are still providing services to a lot of politically noxious sites.

What The Stormer did was claim that since Cloudflare accepted them as customers, Cloudflare must have been sympathetic to their ideology and secretly Nazis themselves. The Stormer made a pretty big deal out of this, potentially doing severe damage to Cloudflare's reputation and driving away customers.

If The Stormer had kept their mouth shut and not made a big public thing out of it, Cloudflare would probably still be providing services to them.

Instead, they forced Cloudflare's hand by claiming them as ideological allies.

It was justified.