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Re:Four new DNA letters double life’s alphabet by mattkrause on Friday February 22, 2019 @09:26AM (#19225551)
More critically, the mantis shrimp doesn’t have opponency.

In humans—-and most other animals—-the visual system represents color[0] using a relative system: is something redder than it is green? Bluer than it is yellow? To create this, neurons receive excitatory input from (e.g.) a red cone and inhibitory input from nearby green cones. This representation makes sense, given the cones’ spectral sensitivity, but it also makes some colors “impossible”. Since each color is essentially a point along these two axes, something can’t be blue and yellow at the same time, reddish green, or even some shades of “hyper-green”[1,2].

The mantis shrimp, near as we can tell, doesn’t have this sort of representation. The anatomical pathways don’t seem to be there, and some behavioral work with trained(!) mantis shrimp also suggests that they have independent color channels, and, as a result, their color sensitivity is actually not amazing. Interestingly, they may do something to “fake” color opponency: different receptor types are in different parts of the eye, and the shrimp ‘drags’ its eye across the scene to produce a sort of temporal context.

That’s more than you probably wanted to know but...shrimp are neat.

[0] To a first approximation, anyway.

[1] There is a place called Reddish Green, which I assume is not invisible, but I’ve never been to Stockport, England.

[2] More seriously, there are some tricks you can play to (briefly) perceive some of these impossible colors. The general approach is that you stare at something of one color, then quickly switch to looking at something of the opponent color. This “fatigues” (adapts) cells that signal the first color, so they provide less inhibitory input in response to the second color.

Re:Four new DNA letters double life’s alphabet by hobs on Friday February 22, 2019 @09:51AM (#19225773)
A great talk about treating lazy eye with VR that discusses creating impossible colors by providing different inputs to different eyes (also just generally cool, discusses multiple methods to have the brain reset the disabling of one eye) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r1Tj5-F4XI&t=2875s
Re:Four new DNA letters double life’s alphabet by kakarot on Friday February 22, 2019 @12:09PM (#19226951)
Here is a blog post which covers some impossible colors and provides a few techniques to "see" them. [0] Of course reddish green and blueish yellow don't have any easy visualization techniques.

My personal favorite impossible color is Stygian Blue. Something is so energizing about seeing a color you know shouldn't exist.

[0] http://www.luniere.com/2014/03/01/hyperbolic-orange-and-the-...

Re:Four new DNA letters double life’s alphabet by FPGAhacker on Friday February 22, 2019 @08:48PM (#19231042)
I see reddish green all the time, although it could be greenish red. Just as often it’s brown.

I’m red-green colorblind.

Re:Four new DNA letters double life’s alphabet by Forbo on Friday February 22, 2019 @01:02PM (#19227469)
I think you forgot your link.
Re:Four new DNA letters double life’s alphabet by kakarot on Friday February 22, 2019 @01:22PM (#19227680)
Hasn't been a great start to the day. Thank you!
Re:Four new DNA letters double life’s alphabet by andyjohnson0 on Friday February 22, 2019 @10:26AM (#19226085)
I lived in Reddish for a while, about 25 years ago. I sometimes used to take a book and sit under the trees on Reddish Green to read. The grass was definitely just regular, visible, non-impossible-coloured grass :)

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4386822,-2.1639276,3a,62.9y,...

Re:Four new DNA letters double life’s alphabet by IIAOPSW on Friday February 22, 2019 @11:02AM (#19226390)
But how do I know you're possible-coloured?
Re:Four new DNA letters double life’s alphabet by tachyonbeam on Friday February 22, 2019 @03:50PM (#19228977)
Fun aside: your mention of the mantis shrimp led me to google image search them, and it turns out that they are very colorful creatures (http://caradonnajournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Peaco...). Their special visual system and bright colors are likely a result of sexual selection.
Re:Four new DNA letters double life’s alphabet by feedbeef on Saturday February 23, 2019 @10:37PM (#19236967)
Mantis shrimp pack a really strong punch too. Truly fascinating creatures.

https://www.ted.com/talks/sheila_patek_clocks_the_fastest_an...

Re:Four new DNA letters double life’s alphabet by mattkrause on Sunday February 24, 2019 @05:03PM (#19240899)
Yup! They're one of the few animals that can see circularly-polarized light, and the quarter-wave retarders in their eyes are really damn good.

As of a few years ago, they had a much wider wavelength range (400-700 nm) than the best man-made ones, which were only achromatic over ~100 nm.