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Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by PuffinBlue on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @08:11AM (#19207524)
This project would seem to fall foul of the Git naming trademark and would likely need to rename unless they have specific permission?

> In addition, you may not use any of the Marks as a syllable in a new word or as part of a portmanteau (e.g., "Gitalicious", "Gitpedia") used as a mark for a third-party product or service without Conservancy's written permission. For the avoidance of doubt, this provision applies even to third-party marks that use the Marks as a syllable or as part of a portmanteau to refer to a product or service's use of Git code.[0]

Git has grandfathered in some projects due to their history but hasn't allowed Portmanteaus for some years:

> - Portmanteaus ("GitFoo" or "FooGit") are out. Most of the cases run into this rule. For instance, we asked GitHub to not to use "DGit" to refer to their replicated Git solution, and they[1] rebranded. We also asked "GitTorrent" not to use that name based on this rule.[1]

[0] https://git-scm.com/about/trademark

[1] https://public-inbox.org/git/20170202022655.2jwvudhvo4hmueaw...

Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by simplecomplex on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @03:03PM (#19211444)
This would seem to qualify as fair use, no?

https://www.inta.org/TrademarkBasics/FactSheets/Pages/Fair-U...

Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by PuffinBlue on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @04:46PM (#19212313)
In that case it would need to be GitHub News or some such.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by devit on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @10:21AM (#19208474)
I wonder if trademark licensing could be a viable business model for some open source projects?
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by npongratz on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @01:44PM (#19210714)
They can do what they want, but I would hate to see various beloved open source projects and their leaders in league with the IP police.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by eropple on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @05:28PM (#19212708)
Regardless of your opinion of copyright, trademark IP has a pretty clear and valid reason to exist. I shouldn't be able to go sell "Coca-Cola" and hoodwink a bunch of customers; the same follows pretty clearly for OSS.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by ChanderG on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @08:04AM (#19207493)
Am I the only one not comfortable with how much "git" has become synonymous with "GitHub" in the common collective?
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by jumbopapa on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @09:14AM (#19207920)
I know some of classmates from college that used to refer to "GitHub" as "git" - that always kind of bothered me, but I didn't think it was worth my time to discuss with them.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by 0xffff2 on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @11:21AM (#19209103)
This is incredibly common with recent grads in my experience. It's really quite frustrating for me because the organization I work for has code on both GitHub (open source) and private git servers. I have to spend half an hour or more with virtually every new intern explaining the difference.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by tqkxzugoaupvwqr on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @11:38AM (#19209286)
Half an hour? All I can think of is: “git is a command-line program to manage source code. GitHub is a graphical user interface that builds on top of git, and adds some features like issue tracking. We installed git on our server. This is were we host our private source code. GitHub is the place where we host our open-source source code.”
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by 0xffff2 on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @01:04PM (#19210216)
Yes, half an hour is a bit more than just "git and GitHub are different things". It also includes a bit of explaining the basics of how git really works under the hood because I've found that users who don't make that distinction also don't really know what to do when something goes wrong. I try to get everyone to a point where they can resolve most common issues without resorting to mashing buttons at random in their GUI of choice.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by staybythebay on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @12:15PM (#19209637)
Git is not most properly described as a command line program either. Git is a version control protocol/system for handling files across multiple locations. Github is just one of those locations
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by freedomben on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @12:59PM (#19210170)
> Git is not most properly described as a command line program either. Git is a version control protocol/system for handling files across multiple locations. Github is just one of those locations

You're technically correct of course, but remember your audience (important pedagogical consideration). These are new grads that think git and github are synonymous. A slightly less technically correct but grokkable explanation is probably a better stepping stone toward arriving at a more correct understanding. You're description is abstract, which is harder to grok for most people than a concrete example. If you want to be more technically correct and therefore launch into a discussion about DAGs you're also not going to teach them anything.

Note: there are always exceptions, and a good teacher adapts to the audience. I'm referring to the very general case, not the exceptional case.

Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by sandov on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @02:24PM (#19211100)
I really hope they are new grands in something not directly involving computers, because otherwise they would have to live in a cave to not know the difference between git and Github.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by 0xffff2 on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @03:36PM (#19211714)
This just isn't true. I really only interact with CS/CpE students/grads and I'm constantly shocked at the ability of universities to force their students to use version control without actually teaching them anything about how it works.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by freedomben on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @05:23PM (#19212659)
Likewise. It's not even that unusual to have somebody using Dropbox to store all of their code, and all they know is that there is a "better system" out there.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by Jeff_Brown on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @04:14PM (#19212048)
"Git is a tool for managing repos. GitHub is a website with a lot of Git repos. Git doesn't need GitHub." Anybody would understand that.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by I_complete_me on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @01:21PM (#19210417)
I was unclear about the fact that you can use them almost independently. I found that the first in this series of You Tube videos [0] made the difference very clear for me. Although his style might annoy some people, he made things pellucid. Perhaps only suitable for noobs. [0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCQHnlnPusY
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by stevekemp on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @01:07PM (#19210248)
I deal with people who call "containers" "dockers". I've stopped complaining, but I'm still disappointed.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by delfinom on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @12:23PM (#19209726)
Sadly I actually use it as a way of testing intern applicants and even new grads as those that actually care to make any distinction between them (and I'm pretty lose with my criteria)...tend to be brighter or at least more aware of what they are doing.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by harperlee on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @08:45AM (#19207702)
Not at all. But: to me, this is less true now than ever, it seems as is gitlab is gaining a huge momentum.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by rovr138 on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @10:20AM (#19208462)
This is a great example. Git news, only Github.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by acemarke on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @12:02PM (#19209513)
Similarly, a lot of folks refer to Wikipedia as "wiki".
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by sandoche on Friday February 22, 2019 @08:55AM (#19225267)
In the case of GitNews, we can add any Git repositories from any sources. In the current version it's only from Github it's through but it may be extended to Gitlab and Bitbucket in the future or even Glitch.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by xbryanx on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @02:26PM (#19211115)
I had several interviewees recently flub this in interviews. When asked about their experience with Version Control Systems they said they used "Github," not "Git." A bit of a warning sign.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by casual_slacker on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @02:47PM (#19211316)
To be fair, critical parts of modern day "version control", like pull requests and code review, are part of GitHub but not git.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by jillesvangurp on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @08:24AM (#19207581)
This would be more useful with links back to the articles. Now, it's just a list of repositories that are somehow interesting but no clue about why they are interesting.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by billturner on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @10:09AM (#19208380)
Agreed. Would be nice to know if it's trending for a good or a bad reason. Links back to HN and Reddit would help with that.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by sandoche on Friday February 22, 2019 @08:56AM (#19225271)
Thanks for the idea, I will look into it!
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by olalonde on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @10:38AM (#19208662)
Cool project but way too much white space: I only see two items above the fold on my Macbook Pro. It would be a lot easier to use if it was more information dense. (e.g. https://i.imgur.com/ZLaSfJJ.png vs https://i.imgur.com/NuNtxel.png)
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by bestest on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @09:22AM (#19207964)
So much wasted space. And the mouse-over animations are quite annoying.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by message on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @12:12PM (#19209614)
This.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by z3t4 on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @07:38AM (#19207366)
I find it interesting that The most popular repo is about hacking, and the second most popular is about defending from hackers.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by ncr100 on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @06:08PM (#19213037)
I find it creepy.

This is a demonstration of how a Search Engine shapes reality by highlighting and magnifying a subset of information.

Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by throwawaylolx on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @08:12AM (#19207529)
What does "trending repositories from [...] HackerNews and Reddit" mean? How is the aggregation made?
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by mattigames on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @08:37AM (#19207653)
I assume its using reddit api to find trending links to git(hub?) repositories.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by jumbopapa on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @09:15AM (#19207926)
This makes so much more sense. I was thinking it was trying to show a collection of trending item from GitHub, Reddit, and Hacker News. I was confused when everything I was seeing was only from GitHub.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by rovr138 on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @10:19AM (#19208455)
So it is using Github as a synonym for Git.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by revskill on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @11:59AM (#19209489)
I don't know why Github "hides" the trending link behind a Profile. To see the Trending link, you must go through the "explore" link first. I found it's very inconvenient for users because Trending is often a bookmarkable link when using github.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by mariocesar on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @07:40AM (#19207372)
There is a RSS Feed ?
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by thecrumb on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @09:14AM (#19207918)
+1 for a feed
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by kamranahmed_se on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @12:23PM (#19209735)
I made a similar project (web app + chrome extension) some time ago that has filters for day, week, month or year

https://kamranahmed.info/githunt/

Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by sandoche on Friday February 22, 2019 @08:56AM (#19225274)
Nice job, it's very good !
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by ahallock on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @01:16PM (#19210355)
Did you use a UI framework/theme for this or was it designed from scratch? While I think there's too much whitespace, there are certain elements I really like.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by IshKebab on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @07:30AM (#19207328)
How is this different to github.com/trending?
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by mattigames on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @08:03AM (#19207487)
The "load more" button for one (trending has a 25 limit)
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by patricia_mayo on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @12:50PM (#19210049)
also the different sources, I think it also feeds from Reddit and HN
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by IshKebab on Thursday February 21, 2019 @07:12AM (#19216255)
Sure but in practice there aren't any entries from Reddit or HN. They are all from Github.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by imafish on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @09:39AM (#19208112)
I think .NET languages are missing
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by hadrien01 on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @10:33AM (#19208592)
You have `CSharp` in the list, but it's not returning any results.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by sandoche on Friday February 22, 2019 @08:57AM (#19225278)
Thanks I'll look into it, I'll fix it as soon as possible!
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by ggregoire on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @10:22AM (#19208490)
This site (and github.com/trending) needs a way to filter out repos only in Chinese.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by farbodsaraf on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @03:49AM (#19206572)
Cool! Finally the web version, this is more handy than the mobile app for me.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by skocznymroczny on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @07:57AM (#19207458)
Looks interesting. Can you add D to the list of languages?
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by sandoche on Friday February 22, 2019 @09:06AM (#19225366)
It is actually easy there, but you have to click on other languages.
Re:Show HN: GitNews Web – Trending Repositories from GitHub,... by hero76 on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @08:19AM (#19207546)
www.gitlogs.com