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Re:Recent events highlight an unpleasant scientific practice... by effie on Saturday February 02, 2019 @05:42PM (#19066263)
Isn't it obvious? Germany is a respected western country, what goes there must be OK, even if not according to other western country's laws. And surely there are sanity checks at place there. Angola, on the other hand, is a poor developing country in third world and that just signals that something nefarious is going on. The participants probably felt doing stuff there would have no such sanity checks and it would also taint their reputation.
Re:Recent events highlight an unpleasant scientific practice... by gumby on Saturday February 02, 2019 @06:06PM (#19066420)
> Isn't it obvious?

Well isn't it condescending to assume that Angola can't have reasonable safety laws while Germany can?

Germany is hardly immune to corruption (as a German speaker I am well aware of this) and that indeed was part of the reason why this loophole (placed there at the behest of German medical device manufacturers) was ultimately removed (thanks, EU!) while plenty of poor countries manage to have non-corrupt governments and reasonable protections in place in particular against the depredations of foreign companies.

As it happens Angola this week removed the laws barring same sex relations, making them more liberal than bigger and so-called "more developed" countries like Russia, China, et al.

Re:Recent events highlight an unpleasant scientific practice... by peteretep on Sunday February 03, 2019 @11:24PM (#19073987)
> Well isn't it condescending to assume that Angola can't have reasonable safety laws while Germany can?

No. Germany is rich and has a high HDI, both of which correlate with safety laws that would be too expensive in poor countries.

Re:Recent events highlight an unpleasant scientific practice... by effie on Saturday February 02, 2019 @09:06PM (#19067319)
Nobody made a superiority judgement, just stating the most probable thinking of those people. Past impressions inform present actions.
Re:Recent events highlight an unpleasant scientific practice... by pofilat on Saturday February 02, 2019 @08:31PM (#19067181)
Few independent observers claim that Russia or China are places with legitimate governments that serve their people well. China is rather well known for its ethics-laundering industry, doing unsafe and polluting manufacturing work for others.
Re:Recent events highlight an unpleasant scientific practice... by lisper on Monday February 04, 2019 @03:17AM (#19074737)
> isn't it condescending

Perhaps. So? Just because an observation is condescending doesn't mean that it's false.

Re:Recent events highlight an unpleasant scientific practice... by shard972 on Saturday February 02, 2019 @06:34PM (#19066594)
> As it happens Angola this week removed the laws barring same sex relations, making them more liberal than bigger and so-called "more developed" countries like Russia, China, et al.

Liberalism doesn't directly correlate with lack of corruption.

Re:Recent events highlight an unpleasant scientific practice... by nothrabannosir on Monday February 04, 2019 @07:59AM (#19075935)
I think it was sarcasm to satirise the hypocrisy.

“Isn’t it obvious? Black is white.”

“Isn’t it obvious? Germany > Angola because.”