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Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by briandear on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @07:57PM (#18985011)
We are calling BuzzFeed “journalism” now? If a business model based on “immediacy” means that BF can rationalize publishing false, or at minimum uncorroborated news, then good riddance. Even Woodward and Bernstein didn’t rush to publish the first minute of knowing something could have been askew with Nixon. BuzzFeed posted the uncorroborated Steele dossier when even The NY Times wouldn’t. They said Trump told Cohen to lie to congress when even Muller himself has declared that false. The Cohen story could have been a bombshell, but Buzzfeed couldn’t get anyone on the record, just “two people close to the investigation.” Journalism, real journalism isn’t bombastic publishing of stories with unnamed sources. In the Berstein era, secret sources were used as background, not as the only source.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/20/business/media/buzzfeed-t...

As far as “tough day on the industry,” perhaps if the industry gave themselves a strong look in the mirror, they’d figure out why. The NY Times is doing pretty well, as is Reuters. It seems that perhaps the youngsters these days are interested more than listicles and might actually care about legitimate news?

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by maxerickson on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:24PM (#18985707)
The content of the dossier was extremely newsworthy.

Posting it with some false statement about it being the clear truth or whatever would be bad, but it's sort of hilarious to point to the NYT being chickenshit about it as some sort of evidence that Buzzfeed went off the rails by posting it.

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by zimpenfish on Thursday January 24, 2019 @11:48AM (#18990313)
> They said Trump told Cohen to lie to congress when even Muller himself has declared that false.

No, Peter Carr said “BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the special counsel’s office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony are not accurate.”

Which is a long, long way from "false".

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by koheripbal on Thursday January 24, 2019 @01:17PM (#18991292)
> Which is a long, long way from "false".

No it isn't.

> "BuzzFeed’s description... are not accurate"

That is literally saying that their reports were false.

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by zimpenfish on Friday January 25, 2019 @05:21AM (#18996894)
> That is literally saying that their reports were false.

Then why didn't he say "false"? Why did he choose the specific "not accurate"?

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by maratd on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:02PM (#18985052)
It is absolutely shameful that this comment was downvoted. Trump is a big boy, he can take it. I couldn't care less.

What of the thousands whose lives are destroyed by shoddy journalism who aren't famous enough to even be recalled? I sincerely hope all of these yellow journalism outfits go out of business. It won't happen, but one can hope.

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Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by mynameishere on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:59PM (#18985341)
Trump had the entire establishment, left, right and center, against him, and came out a winner. He still has the entire establishment, left, right, and center, against him. And he's still there fighting.

You can hate the guy--it is establishment policy to do so, after all--but he's a tough son-of-a-bitch. There's no way around that fact.

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by hnmonkey on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @11:15PM (#18985921)
The man is definitely not in the running for a 'tough son-of-a-bitch.' He has previously circled photos of his hands and sent them to people to prove how big his hands are. He bragged about his penis size at a debate. Just recently it came out that he has people photoshopping his body to make him look better and his fingers to make them longer. He has thrown many a tantrum when faced with reality and has cabinet meetings where people go around the room and praise him. None of these screams thick skin or toughness.

I'm curious what 'establishment' means to you and which part of the 'establishment' and the 'right' you think are still against him. He and the republicans have literally been in control of the entire federal government for 2 years up until a couple of weeks ago and it seems that the republicans are completely behind him.

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by tomc1985 on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @11:54PM (#18986098)
Tough in the sense that he wears the armor of the U.S. government to protect him. The man will fall very far once those protections run out.
Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by dmode on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @11:35PM (#18986003)
He was so tough that he dodged the Vietnam war because of bone spurs. He is weak sauce
Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by nailer on Thursday January 24, 2019 @05:08AM (#18987369)
He's cowardly, but I think people mean tough in the sense that he does what he wants.
Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by enraged_camel on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @11:06PM (#18985880)
Trump is not tough at all. He has an extremely fragile ego. This is incredibly obvious to anyone who is paying even the tiniest bit of attention.

The only reason he has lasted all this time is because he's wealthy, and that's mostly because he inherited a couple of hundred million dollars from his father.

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by sodosopa on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @09:12PM (#18985404)
I wouldn't classify someone who has had six bankruptcies as a "winner". One, maybe two I can understand. But six, that's just poor business management and a great example as to why we're heading into a Trump-powered recession.

https://www.thoughtco.com/donald-trump-business-bankruptcies...

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by phy6 on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @09:52PM (#18985575)
Well your classifiers aren't looking at the distribution then. 6 out of a few dozen isn't bad, that's where I'd like to be.
Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by manigandham on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:29PM (#18985735)
He's currently president of the United States. Do people think this is somehow easy to accomplish now?

Regardless of how you feel about him, attaining this office does mean a certain amount of competence.

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by zimpenfish on Thursday January 24, 2019 @11:50AM (#18990334)
> Do people think this is somehow easy to accomplish now?

That depends - how much external help am I allowed?

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by manigandham on Thursday January 24, 2019 @07:31PM (#18994432)
Getting support to achieve your goals is how you achieve your goals and requires the same competence. This isn't a lottery.
Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by sodosopa on Thursday January 24, 2019 @08:32PM (#18994753)
Does it have to be legal and ethical?
Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by zimpenfish on Friday January 25, 2019 @05:20AM (#18996886)
I suppose that was the implicit meaning I should have made explicit in my question.
Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by hnmonkey on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @11:02PM (#18985858)
Do you have evidence of specific competence at something?
Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by newfriend on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:09AM (#18986588)
He's a billionaire real estate magnate, who had a very successful television show, and became the President of the United States despite extreme opposition from both major parties and the media.

It's obvious from your other comments that you viscerally hate this man, it might good for you to see things with a bit more objectivity.

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by sodosopa on Thursday January 24, 2019 @08:33PM (#18994758)
Until he releases his tax records, we do not know if he is a "billionaire". Hopefully, they'll be released soon.
Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by WillPostForFood on Thursday January 24, 2019 @12:46AM (#18986297)
running for president?
Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by sodosopa on Thursday January 24, 2019 @08:41PM (#18994806)
Unfortunately the Russian interference in the US elections & 5 of the campaign officials convicted of various election-related crimes doesn't make it look like the President had a competent, ethical and legal campaign.
Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by res0nat0r on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:25PM (#18985184)
Not sure if all of these downvoted comments are just spamming "liburl media" right-wing talking points like is pretty much the norm now for anything critical of Trump, or just out of ignorance, but Buzzfeed was nominated for a Pulitzer on it's Russia reporting and has many award winning reporters on staff.

https://www.pulitzer.org/finalists/staff-buzzfeed-news

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BuzzFeed_News

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by luckylion on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @09:40PM (#18985534)
Top articles of the moment: > Can You Recognize These Rectangular-Ish U.S. States? > 31 Ways To Make Traveling So Much Less Stressful > People Are Sharing The Nicest Thing A Stranger Has Done For Them, And It's Exactly What You Need Today

I mean, I'm sure they do also sometimes produce journalistic content, and it might be of great quality when they do.

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by pulisse on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @09:47PM (#18985562)
As already pointed out a dozen times in these comments, buzzfeednews.com and buzzfeed.com are distinct.
Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by luckylion on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:16PM (#18985671)
Well, the news was about "BuzzFeed" in general, but fair enough.

Buzzfeed News current top articles:

Why Bryan Singer’s Latest Scandal May Not Affect Rami Malek’s “Bohemian Rhapsody” Oscar Campaign

This Photographer Captures The Emotional Final Moments Between Pets And Their Owners

Climate Change Is A Top Priority For The New Crop Of Governors — Even One Republican

A Man Allegedly Harassed Parkland Victims' Families On Instagram By Posing As The Shooter

A Woman Mistakenly Showed Up For Her Interview With Microsoft A Month Early. Her Hilarious Exchange With The Company Has Gone Viral.

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by mellow-lake-day on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:21PM (#18985693)
Buzzfeed != Buzzfeed news

Here are some examples from buzzfeed news:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/heidiblake/poison-in-the-system

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nicolenguyen/how-apps-t...

I think Buzzfeed news should rebrand itself so people stop getting the two confused

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by JshWright on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:00PM (#18985607)
> They said Trump told Cohen to lie to congress when even Muller himself has declared that false.

The SCO's statement was _much_ narrower in scope than that.

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by hnmonkey on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @11:09PM (#18985889)
The dossier has been almost entirely corroborated across the board. No parts of it have been proven incorrect so far. Do you have any evidence that any parts of it have been shot down as not factual?

Calling it the 'uncorroborated Steele dossier' is a talking point that has been proven to be a lie over and over. It seems that Buzzfeed New's publishing about the dossier is literally the type of 'real journalism' and 'legitimate news' that you're talking about because it has led to multiple investigations of some of the most influential people in the United States and has led to multiple indictments and guilty pleas, including the former National Security Advisor to the President of the United States. I haven't seen many '10 surprise diet secrets' articles doing the same. Have you?

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by remarkEon on Thursday January 24, 2019 @01:15AM (#18986400)
Reading comments like this makes me honestly entertain simulation theory. We have to be living in completely different realities, where what you’ve read and what I’ve read literally have different words on the page.
Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by arduanika on Thursday January 24, 2019 @04:01AM (#18987074)
> almost entirely corroborated

Have any of the guilty pleas corresponded to a specific claim from Steele? My understanding is, few if any. For what remains of "almost entirely" the whole dossier, "corroborated" in your book seems to mean "not worth bringing before a court of law, even after 2+ years of highly empowered investigation".

> No parts of it have been proven incorrect so far. Do you have any evidence that any parts of it have been shot down as not factual?

Russell has got an orbiting teacup to sell you.

Re:BuzzFeed to Cut 15% of Its Workforce by WillPostForFood on Thursday January 24, 2019 @12:45AM (#18986294)
Even Mother Jones would call it mostly uncorroborated.

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/12/an-updated-lo...

What source are you using to get "almost entirely corroborated"?