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Re:Teachers Quit Jobs at Highest Rate on Record by e1g on Friday December 28, 2018 @08:12PM (#18780965)
Presumably the backpresure of requests does not go away - when parents email for information, they do not stop just because they didn’t get a response. They will reach out through other methods. Do you know how that irreducible workload gets resolved, other than getting passed to colleagues who do put in extra effort/hours?
Re:Teachers Quit Jobs at Highest Rate on Record by archon on Friday December 28, 2018 @08:20PM (#18781012)
> Presumably the backpresure of requests does not go away

If a teacher's work email is anything like my email inbox at work, ~90% of emails just go away if ignored. The other ~10% email again if it's actually important.

Once your contacts are "trained" not to expect instant feedback to every email they send you, you can often get some actual work done.

Re:Teachers Quit Jobs at Highest Rate on Record by e1g on Friday December 28, 2018 @08:34PM (#18781091)
This is often the case for internal comms in a large company overran with administrators / coordinators. Yet parents are more like customers than colleagues - and no operation can ignore 90% of external / customer comms and stay alive (to say nothing of effective!)
Re:Teachers Quit Jobs at Highest Rate on Record by barry-cotter on Friday December 28, 2018 @08:49PM (#18781177)
Parents aren’t customers in a government school. Customers pay money. Parents are stakeholders, along with teachers, the teachers union and local politicians who compete for teachers votes. Children are not stakeholders because they have no power and their opinions are irrelevant.

A government school has an enormous advantage over private schools in that it’s free at the point of use. You can be a lot worse than the competition if the competition is expensive and you’re paid for by tax money.

Re:Teachers Quit Jobs at Highest Rate on Record by arbie on Friday December 28, 2018 @09:11PM (#18781290)
Parents in competitive school districts also shell out exorbitant sums, both in property taxes and during school fundraisers.

It has given rise to a bargaining mentality.

Re:Teachers Quit Jobs at Highest Rate on Record by sgc on Saturday December 29, 2018 @12:05AM (#18781973)
Schools get money for each student enrolled, so there is a strong incentive to please parents so they don't move their kids (to a charter school etc). That seems fair enough to me in principle, but due to unrealistic demands, it can fail at times. Nonetheless it is better than a one-size-fits-all no child left behind policy. So charter schools create the competition in a district, and at least put pressure to raise the level of all the public schools.
Re:Teachers Quit Jobs at Highest Rate on Record by thr0w__4w4y on Saturday December 29, 2018 @11:58AM (#18784453)
> Children are not stakeholders because they have no power and their opinions are irrelevant

I think I see your point of view, but IMO that is too narrow a definition of "stakeholder".

One of the more commonly-accepted definitions of "stakeholder", at least from a project-management standpoint, would be:

"an individual, group, or organization, who may affect, be affected by, or perceive itself to be affected by a decision, activity, or outcome of a project"

Even in my work, I tend to think of stakeholders as those who stand to lose or gain based on the outcome -- literally, those who have a stake in the outcome. Many of them are active participants, but not always.

Just my 2 cents... I might be far from typical in this viewpoint.

Re:Teachers Quit Jobs at Highest Rate on Record by sharadov on Friday December 28, 2018 @10:13PM (#18781554)
I completely agree, this works even in workplace scenarios. Do not create lofty expectations as you will be forced to live up to them. Sometimes it's just your brain seeking those shots of dopamine.
Re:Teachers Quit Jobs at Highest Rate on Record by jpatokal on Friday December 28, 2018 @08:17PM (#18780992)
Non-American here: what happens if the teacher just flatly says no/doesn't answer the emails/calls etc? Are lawsuits against teachers over grades an actual thing in the US now? (In Europe or Australia you'd be laughed out of court for even trying.)
Re:Teachers Quit Jobs at Highest Rate on Record by skywhopper on Friday December 28, 2018 @08:22PM (#18781020)
No such lawsuits are not a thing. I’m sure people threaten it. But it doesn’t happen.

That said, the teachers do have a responsibility to respond to parents. But they should never give in to helicopter parent special requests for extra credit.

Re:Teachers Quit Jobs at Highest Rate on Record by grecy on Friday December 28, 2018 @09:52PM (#18781461)
> That said, the teachers do have a responsibility to respond to parents

Are you sure about that?

In my opinion the teachers have a responsibility to do the best damn job they can teaching their students. Meetings, parent emails and "admin paperwork", etc. are all a distant second.

I know my brother pushes back against it, and just says there are not enough hours in the day to respond to the requests of the hundreds of parents of all of his students.

Re:Teachers Quit Jobs at Highest Rate on Record by grecy on Friday December 28, 2018 @09:54PM (#18781466)
> Presumably the backpresure of requests does not go away

It does. If the matter is actually important/urgent he will call a parent to speak to them directly, or the matter can be discussed at the next parent/teacher interview.

The unimportant ones go away.