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Re:Marriott Data Breach Traced to Chinese Hackers, US Readie... by meowface on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @09:09PM (#18660803)
You're right, but there also may be highly sensitive intelligence at play here. If US intelligence has a mole in Chinese intelligence, and/or access to Chinese government systems, they could have smoking gun proof. They may have been able to trace it to them with high confidence even without that proof, but we'll probably never know for sure, since they'll never publicize the real details.
Re:Marriott Data Breach Traced to Chinese Hackers, US Readie... by est on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @09:21PM (#18660870)
Chinese government is a complex hierarchy. Documented, planed, coordinated attacks are really rare. Most of the breaches are carried out by Chinese civil hackers or contractors, The harvested data was later funneled to government agencies by various markets and cooperative projects.

I've seen one these "lone wolf" actor preemptively collecting emails of a very high profile target via sophisticated penatration (APT? LOL), then sold these data to a state-owned enterprise. In exchange his hacking violations were cleared.

The government simply kept a loose end to these kind of foreign hacks. For domestic offense, the rules are very strict. Some dude famously posted some kind of minor XSS vulnerability of a random PLA veteran management site, then the hole public disclosure site was shutdown by the government and site admin was jailed. LMAO. So today the Chinese underground market was more active than ever before, because there are no more free bugs.

Re:Marriott Data Breach Traced to Chinese Hackers, US Readie... by eganist on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @10:19PM (#18661113)
What's your sourcing on all of this?

Everything you just said--if legitimate and if identified via IC-contracted *INT--would with near-certainty be classified and appropriately compartmentalized. If it's research from an outside institution, it'd be more interesting to read it.

Re:Marriott Data Breach Traced to Chinese Hackers, US Readie... by meowface on Wednesday December 12, 2018 @09:43AM (#18664281)
I think it's a mix of both, much like it is in Russia.
Re:Marriott Data Breach Traced to Chinese Hackers, US Readie... by late2part on Tuesday December 11, 2018 @09:50PM (#18661002)
You are misinformed.