Re:After 48 hours we haven't seen any sign people are using ...
by rootusrootus on Saturday December 08, 2018 @07:58PM
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As far as I can tell, that's only true in fairly unique situations, though, in the super-cities. I live in a decently sized city (metro population of perhaps 3 million people, around 25th in the US I believe) with a transit system mostly regarded as 'pretty good' (but no subway, just light rail and buses) and it would be rare even at rush hour for a car not to be faster. Usually signficantly so.
I think what it comes down to is that if you have a subway system, that will probably beat cars, in the limited area it serves. Once you have to do transfers to buses, it gets much slower. In the places I've visited with subway systems (SF, DC primarily) this is definitely the case.
Re:After 48 hours we haven't seen any sign people are using ...
by dragonwriter on Saturday December 08, 2018 @08:08PM
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The US, even cities with “pretty good” transit by local standards, had appallingly bad transit and car-optimized cities.
Re:After 48 hours we haven't seen any sign people are using ...
by stevenwoo on Saturday December 08, 2018 @09:37PM
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Here's an interesting overview of US cities mass transit by an urban planner from Houston (an admittedly vary car centric place.)
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/12/7/18131132/public-tran...
Re:After 48 hours we haven't seen any sign people are using ...
by loeg on Saturday December 08, 2018 @09:36PM
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US transit is heavily optimized for cars, even in places with pretty good mass transit. Don't let your personal experience with US metros color your expectations for what public transit can be.
Re:After 48 hours we haven't seen any sign people are using ...
by blattimwind on Saturday December 08, 2018 @10:43PM
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> with a transit system mostly regarded as 'pretty good'
That's probably US bias, because as far as I can tell by reporting US public transport is generally very bad and far worse in big cities compared to much smaller cities elsewhere.
Re:After 48 hours we haven't seen any sign people are using ...
by TylerE on Saturday December 08, 2018 @08:23PM
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How about once you factor in time to walk to and from the station.
Re:After 48 hours we haven't seen any sign people are using ...
by freeopinion on Saturday December 08, 2018 @09:13PM
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You have to count that against time spent at the gym, not against commute times. :)
Subways / trains in Tokyo are faster than driving, same in London.
No stop lights, no intersections, no delays on the road.
Buses aren't faster, but once you go underground, the speed improves dramatically. Even if there is a 2 minute stop once every mile, that is still less time waiting than comparable stop lights in a car.