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Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by NicoJuicy on Friday November 30, 2018 @06:12PM (#18573608)
You are Chinese? Raw guess.

But the entire setup of China is made for stealing tech from companies who invest there, this doesn't mean anyone isn't hardworking or hasn't got any talent. I know Chinese are hardworking.

Also, hardware needs a lot of capital in Western countries, workers are expensive.

Starting for yourselve ( with software) and gradually growing is a lot "easier" if you aren't rich.

Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by dang on Friday November 30, 2018 @10:04PM (#18574833)
> You are Chinese?

Do not go down that road, please.

Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by NicoJuicy on Saturday December 01, 2018 @10:47AM (#18577217)
The reason I added it was conflict of interest originally. It's quite irrelevant now since I misread it ( I am Chinese was from a different author named BlackjackCF, and was a reply somewhere in his comment history).

So yeah, this wasn't what I had in mind. Human error.

Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by casefields on Saturday December 01, 2018 @04:46AM (#18576095)
Oh please. The Chinese always sprout up to defend and pretend, that the unsavory aspect of Chinese industrial espionage is American/western propaganda. Happens all over the place on the Internet.
Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by dang on Saturday December 01, 2018 @02:49PM (#18578533)
We have a lot of experience with this, and I can tell you what is far more common: people projecting manipulation and astroturfing onto legit users who in fact are merely expressing an opposing point of view. Hauling out this accusation without evidence is poisonous to discussion. That's why the site guidelines ask you not to post such insinuations. Please read and follow them from now on: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Following the site guidelines also means not using flamewar tropes like "Oh please", and refraining from nationalistic flamewar in general. "The Chinese always sprout up" is a pretty gross thing to see here.

Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by kappi on Friday November 30, 2018 @07:00PM (#18573946)
I am not Chinese. I work in chip company and vast majority of EE engineers are Chinese. White americans may be 1-2% percentage at the junior level. It may be less than 10% overall. There are some older white americans but they all will retire soon. Like I said before, nobody to blame. Follow the easy money.
Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by ghettoimp on Friday November 30, 2018 @08:03PM (#18574274)
I don't know where you work, but this seems like a weirdly racist thing to say.

Based on my experience, it's also complete bullshit.

I work at a chip company in the US. Our (chip engineering) workforce is probably about half White Americans. The other half are predominantly Indian, with significant numbers of other Asians. (It's also almost entirely male, because 2018.)

At my previous employer, also a chip company in the US, the workforce was even more heavily skewed to White Americans. Probably at least 70%.

I can point to a great number of very smart, hard-working, dedicated, and capable co-workers in every one of these racial groups.

Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by bllguo on Saturday December 01, 2018 @04:30AM (#18576043)
it's racist for op to observe racial trends at the workplace? Please stop diluting the term.
Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by stjohnswarts on Saturday December 01, 2018 @01:40AM (#18575578)
Same in the companies I've contracted for, not really that many east Asians, almost all American and Indians
Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by CathayRe on Saturday December 01, 2018 @08:04AM (#18576601)
I think we kinda need a new word for Chinese Chinese. Are they ethnic Chinese but actually American, as American Chinese, or are they Chinese Chinese?
Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by RamanathanR on Saturday December 01, 2018 @12:04AM (#18575293)
No, You SHOULD blame the "Management" who cannot think past lining their own pockets.
Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by echevil on Friday November 30, 2018 @07:27PM (#18574097)
> But the entire setup of China is made for stealing tech from companies who invest there

That's a really weird statement. A large part of China has no foreign dependencies. China has a vibrant and closed ecosystem tech industry right now -> Most of the Chinese tech startups nowadays have diverged so much from other countries and they're mostly focusing on Chinese market.

Re:Chip wars: China, America and silicon supremacy by NicoJuicy on Saturday December 01, 2018 @11:03AM (#18577284)
Of course the tech companies focus on Chinese users, but China's growth was/is in production.

Ps. Alibaba and jb.com are 2 of them for mostly outside of China. Tescent is "mostly" Chinese gamers