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Re:Thank you to dang and sctb by dieterrams on Thursday November 22, 2018 @11:42PM (#18514411)
I vouched for (undeaded) your comment, since I think the flagging/downvoting runs contrary to the principles of discourse we're (at least implicitly) celebrating here, smelling of tribalism/favoritism. Just because you view someone favorably, and someone else claims something negative about that person, doesn't mean you just get to flagbomb them into oblivion.

The right response here is simply to ask for further substantiation, as danso did. It's not clear to me that the mods are directly responsible for what you've experienced. If you haven't, I would contact them for clarification.

Re:Thank you to dang and sctb by pvg on Friday November 23, 2018 @01:41AM (#18514796)
smelling of tribalism/favoritism.

Downvoting something for complaining about votes is fairly normal. Downvote baiting on top is flagworthy. I imagine lots of people quite sensibly apply these as a matter of course.

Re:Thank you to dang and sctb by mercer on Sunday November 25, 2018 @11:11AM (#18527408)
With some exceptions I downvote any comment that complains about downvotes. I'm not 100% comfortable about it, and I might change my approach, but so far rigorously applying the rules seems to be working. I'm willing to bet I'm not the only one to do so.
Re:Thank you to dang and sctb by dieterrams on Friday November 23, 2018 @01:54AM (#18514846)
One imagines they do. I'm not sure that's what's going on here, though.
Re:Thank you to dang and sctb by pvg on Friday November 23, 2018 @03:29AM (#18515152)
Why wouldn't exactly that be going on here? It's a grade-A downvotable, flaggable comment.
Re:Thank you to dang and sctb by dieterrams on Wednesday November 28, 2018 @11:55PM (#18558204)
Jesus Christ.

Suppose he is being treated unfairly by the mods. Is that not worth complaining about?

I don't give a crap about some silly "downvote every comment complaining about downvotes" rule. Complaining about downvotes was frowned upon because people get inexplicably downvoted as a matter of course here, and the frequency of complaints was deemed sufficiently detracting to warrant being frowned upon. Being treated unfairly by the mods, however, is another matter entirely.

I haven't seen a preponderance of evidence suggesting the complaint was ill-founded, and the guy's tenure and comment history (what I looked through of it) do not suggest he's an ill-mannered troll, so I reserve judgement as to whether the complaint is in the wrong. Like any reasonable person would.

Re:Thank you to dang and sctb by chris_wot on Friday November 23, 2018 @12:27PM (#18517749)
I have, they have admitted it in public comments to me already.
Re:Thank you to dang and sctb by danso on Thursday November 22, 2018 @08:41PM (#18513785)
I didn't downvote but I think others might have because you leveled an allegation so vague as to be irrefutable. I think dang has been a great mod and have only seen the interactions that involve me, or have been upvoted. Doesn't mean I wouldn't be interested in seeing substantive criticism from those who've experienced differently.
Re:Thank you to dang and sctb by waterhouse on Friday November 23, 2018 @04:05AM (#18515284)
If there were a search engine that, say, turned up comment-pairs where dang replied to chris_wot, then it would be easy to get a sampling of their (public) interactions. I doubt any normal search engines (or even hn.algolia.com) do it. (And both posters are active enough that going through history is impractical. BTW, as one data point, 14 of dang's last 36 comments contain the word "please".) Perhaps someone has a database of HN comments that could be queried in such a way. But yeah, in the absence of links or a pointer to such a database, it's not substantiated and so the reader's evaluation is going to depend primarily on their prior opinions.
Re:Thank you to dang and sctb by danso on Friday November 23, 2018 @10:44AM (#18517042)
It wouldn't cover situations where the mods took action or retaliated without publicly commenting. But to your question about a queryable database, such a thing exists on BigQuery: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17471117

edit: apparently it's updated daily, with 18,507,035 comments as of now: https://bigquery.cloud.google.com/table/bigquery-public-data...

Re:Thank you to dang and sctb by chris_wot on Thursday November 22, 2018 @09:37PM (#18513973)
It’s kind of hard to do. Almost certainly dang or another mod would rate limit or shadow ban me.

It’s their site to do as they will, but it strikes me as interesting that they are held up as saints when they are anything but. Note that I’m not saying they are monsters either, but as someone on the receiving end of dang’s conduct I personally cannot agree with this post. It’s not like they are really accountable for their actions.

Re:Thank you to dang and sctb by girvo on Friday November 23, 2018 @12:13AM (#18514499)
> Almost certainly dang or another mod would rate limit or shadow ban me.

See that's where you lose me, I'm afraid. This is why it's vague to the point of being irrefutable.

Re:Thank you to dang and sctb by bhengaij on Thursday November 22, 2018 @10:24PM (#18514125)
They're just regular mods. On a toxic one-up community. I'd like then to at least have a courtesy of mentioning when someone is (shadow) banned.
Re:Thank you to dang and sctb by reitanqild on Friday November 23, 2018 @01:27AM (#18514745)
I think they don't shadow ban people anymore since sometime after pg left.

I am somewhat rate limited it seems for reasons but I won't complain. I'm possibly more annoying than them.

Re:Thank you to dang and sctb by choot on Friday November 23, 2018 @04:40AM (#18515421)
> I think they don't shadow ban people anymore since sometime after pg left.

That's false. They also take away your individual ability to post a thread or upvote. They do this silently.