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Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by rman666 on Saturday November 10, 2018 @09:59AM (#18421536)
No! Im still lovin’ Firefox:-)
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by mattmaroon on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:10AM (#18421589)
How is their Android app? Been debating trying them out again.
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by subraizada3 on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:18AM (#18421629)
I use an Android without Google Play Services. Firefox (Fennec on F-Droid) probably isn't as fast as Chrome, but it's very usable. Being able to use desktop addons like uBlock is great. I haven't found any compatibility issues with the websites I use.

In the settings there's an option to add a 'Quit' button to the menu, which will clear all cookies / history / etc. when you quit FF using menu->quit (so your session is still saved if you just go to the home screen and come back later). IMO that's better than Firefox Focus, which has adblocking and ephemeral sessions built in but doesn't let you have tabs.

Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by talonx on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:28AM (#18421672)
I use the mobile Firefox on stock Android. There are certain issues like emails from Gmail not showing up correctly. But that's a minor pain compared to the adblockers and other features that I can use.
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by EwanToo on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:27AM (#18421671)
It's really good, I'm using it now, but Google deliberately cripple the UI on it unless you use a user agent switcher.

There's a specific plugin for it, Google Search Fixer.

Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by lettergram on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:16AM (#18421614)
I love their Android app, actually found it better than chrome on Android. Plus they have the same sync features across browsers on different devices. That is honestly the Reason I switched to Firefox about 18 months ago. Chrome at the time (still might), was slower and worked less well on Android.
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by mooreds on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:24AM (#18421653)
Browsing on ff on Android right now. I think its great. Probably once a week I see a site that I have to use chrome for, but other than that small inconvenience, Firefox is great.
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by beatgammit on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:18AM (#18421628)
I use it and like it, and they'll be rolling out an update somewhat soon with a complete makeover of the rendering engine (switching to GeckoView from whatever they have now), so I'm hopeful that rendering will get faster.

I like it because:

- syncs with desktop Firefox - has extensions (I mostly use Bitwarden and an ad blocker) - interface is nice to use - available in F-Droid

It's fast enough for me, though I haven't used mobile Chrome for years, so I guess I don't know what I'm missing.

Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by Brakenshire on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:29AM (#18421677)
The switch to Geckoview is for Firefox Focus, which previously used Blink (the Chrome rendering engine).

Standard Firefox for Android has used Gecko from the start. It is gradually being upgraded using the Quantum improvements, but the rate of change seems slow. I thought that the emphasis on multi-threaded processing in Quantum would be particularly useful for mobile, because the single threaded processing capability of mobile (and particularly non-Apple mobile chips) is very limited, but there don't seem to have been massive improvements.

I think it’s a shame they relegated Servo to a research project, integrating Servo into Gecko has been long-winded, and the most important target of porting a parallel/multi-threaded layout engine isn’t even being discussed. Frankly, given their $500m budget, their core mission of browser development, and the massive importance of mobile, they probably should have pursued both Gecko and Servo at the same time. Even if Servo only supported flexbox layouts it could be very useful as a wrapper while wider compability was being pursued. The emphasis now is on WebVR, which seems not very relevant to the mass market.

Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by Yoric on Saturday November 10, 2018 @01:52PM (#18422824)
The Servo team is very active.

Unfortunately, it's trying to hit a fast-moving target, and that's really hard. Which is the reason for which I believe nobody else is currently pursuing any new web engine.

Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by ishitatsuyuki on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:32AM (#18421694)
I also used Firefox on Android for a pretty long period, but to be honest I ended up moving to Brave.

I run Nightly so I get the improvements quickly, but even with that Firefox is still far behind Chrome.

- Firefox does not have a JIT for 64-bit ARM (AArch64). Didn't benchmark but this does make a difference.

- Running a extension based ad blocker seems to degrade performance and the difference visible on a smartphone SoC. I think Brave has it written in native code and deeply integrated, and it seems to perform without making things super slow.

- While I can't judge on the UI (actually I miss the tab gestures on Firefox), Firefox often glitches like not loading custom tabs, page search getting stuck and some others. This was quite stressful.

- The sync is super glitchy. It can easily be days outdated unless you trigger it manually.

Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by leetcrew on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:48AM (#18421785)
if you're concerned about performance, why would you use nightly? i've never benchmarked the difference between other people's release, beta, and nightly builds, but i know at my day job the daily builds are likely to have performance regressions that won't necessarily be fixed until beta or release.
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by ishitatsuyuki on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:58AM (#18421841)
Because it's also the first to get major rewrites. The Stylo CSS engine used to be Nightly only, and Nightly is basically the only channel you can test the latest Quantum components.
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by yoasif_ on Saturday November 10, 2018 @11:40AM (#18422072)
There are no real improvements coming to Firefox Nightly on Android. All the real action is happening in Firefox Focus with GeckoView: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/wiki/Release... and in Fenix: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix

Fennec (Firefox for Android) is basically in maintenance mode.

FWIW: Firefox Focus Nightly is a much better implementation of Gecko on Android than Fennec ever was, with the caveat that Sync, sessions, or extensions are not available.

Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by rcMgD2BwE72F on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:18AM (#18421621)
I use Firefox Focus/Klar for everyday Web surfing, and Firefox beta for websites where I need to be logged in (quite rare actually).

It's great to know that every site I visit now can't track me (easily). It's like a have a fresh new browser every time. I recommend them both.

On Firefox beta, I also have installed uBlock Origin, Cookie Auto-delete, Privacy Badger, HTTPS Everywhere and Decentraleyes. Quite happy with my setup.

Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by quantummkv on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:20AM (#18421639)
It's far, far better than chrome. It even has the same extension mechanism so you can get ublock origin on you mobile device as well.
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by welly on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:20AM (#18421636)
Works very well. I've been using it as my main mobile browser for at least a year now. Latest version is great and I recently noticed it even supports Firefox extensions (at least some of them!), which I don't believe android Chrome does.
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by Boulth on Sunday November 11, 2018 @02:17AM (#18425354)
Firefox Android is more important than the desktop version as that's the only way to have uBlock on mobile.
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by cyphax on Saturday November 10, 2018 @11:49AM (#18422117)
I have been using it for years, I've never had any reason to use Chrome on Android at all. :)
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by stabbles on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:36AM (#18421712)
I'm using Firefox Focus on Android as my only browser for a year now and it's great!
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by noir_lord on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:41AM (#18421747)
Same and it works with unlock origin.

It was a bit tougher a year ago but recent versions are spot on, I've largely forgotten it's not chrome as it just stays out the way.

Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by maxxxxx on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:39AM (#18421735)
It's very good. Brave Browser is also quite good.
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by jhauris on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:21AM (#18421642)
I also use firefox on android. It's really good.
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by datalist on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:02AM (#18421548)
We are the minority at this point.
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by setquk on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:07AM (#18421581)
Unfortunately so but I’m happy with it here.
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by leowoo91 on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:12AM (#18421596)
Firefox FTW, since it's completely open source.
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by newusertoday on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:37AM (#18421716)
Since no one has mentioned it yet, please also try firefox lite on android its 3.5MB and very usable. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.ro...
Re:Has Chrome fully taken over yet? by Wehrdo on Saturday November 10, 2018 @11:24AM (#18421990)
Looks like it's only available to some countries in Asia [0]. I've been using Firefox Focus on my phone (uses Webkit under the hood), since regular Firefox is too slow.

[0]: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/get-started-firefox-lit...