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Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by themodelplumber on Wednesday November 07, 2018 @06:21PM (#18403200)
It's an incredibly broad hobby. I just got my first award by downloading digital images (SSTV) from the ISS using a $35 handheld radio, and that didn't require any talking at all.

There are tons of things you can do, so many that it's hard to sum up. It also combines well with other hobbies. Or it can be a symbol or inspiration of its own kind, an objective reminder that more science in your life is a good thing.

One of the biggest advantages is the practically free education. If you upgrade your license you'll learn a lot of really fascinating stuff. I really wish I knew about propagation and differences between the various bands and band schedules back when I was a kid, fooling around with my dad's Patrolman radio. I also learned how effective logging can be, and have applied that in just about every area of my life.

Finally, there's just something about breaking the silence and making that call when you're out in the middle of nowhere. Even if you're the world's biggest introvert, you might end up helping somebody by keeping your radio turned on and tuned in.

https://old.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/9c9n0q/my_for...

Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by cnnrro on Wednesday November 07, 2018 @08:22PM (#18403726)
> I also learned how effective logging can be, and have applied that in just about every area of my life.

This statement really piqued my curiosity. Would you mind expanding on it?

Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by themodelplumber on Wednesday November 07, 2018 @08:42PM (#18403796)
Sure, as a radio operator, even just a listener-operator, you quickly find that A) you are expected to keep a log, and in many situations _must_ keep a log (contests are a good example), and B) a log easily runs circles around your memory. As it turns out, logs also provide a helpful context for bridging the gap between the subjective and objective lenses, both of which are helpful and needed for solving problems, reaching goals, etc. no matter the activity.

In many areas of life, I knew I was really far too subjective due to my research into my personal psychology (I'm a professional coach) and wondered about different ways I could be _more_ objective without actually becoming an external sensing-measuring device. :-) Reading about logging tools like SINPO[0] helped me intuitively identify new ways of logging & spreadsheeting my way through different activities and situations.

As an example, when I get sick, I now engage this logging skill rather than just feeling my way through the illness, and I get to see some really cool emergent properties of this new personal system. I usually monitor my vitals in addition to writing down some subjective 1-10 ratings of how I feel in terms of general wellbeing, nausea, depression, and anxiety as the day passes. I have an autoimmune condition and while I can't just take a pill and cure that, my logs have shown me the peaks and troughs of amplitude within every passing hour of severe illness, when those illnesses come. I discovered that as I watch this data I can be more nuanced about the way I treat my sick time, and ended up actually getting productive work done that I _wanted to get done_ while "sick", by recognizing the high points and patterns in rest and energy buildup. "Riding the waves" with more precision, so to speak. There is also the analytical side of this, where I'll occasionally look back through my logs and see icons like a circled "!!!" which means "wow you tried something new here and it worked amazingly well, please add this to your toolkit for this activity from now on."

Because you're effectively engaging more of your "sensor suite," you kind of feel more like the space ship that can navigate the asteroid field vs. the one that really gets banged up. When you fold in the analysis step, it's like you're now better able to approach even more treacherous asteroid fields--your machinery is getting upgrades over time.

Incidentally, when I meet up with a doctor, I can be much more accurate about what happened and when.

I do the same logging thing at work, and now keep logs as part of just about every project. In some cases this is a literal mini-blog on a web page, and in other cases it's a text file tucked somewhere 15 folders deep, and in still other cases it's a small mark in the margin of a paper journal page.

I also discovered that this helps with other hobbies. I run RPGs for my kids and develop my own table-top RPGs, and keeping a log is a huge tip for a really effective campaign. Later on the log can become a published, written narrative (e.g. Record of Lodoss War), or mined for new ideas.

I used to struggle to keep a personal journal, but I've since found that I can more easily approach the practice by starting from the "Stardate" mindset and being a tad more robotic regarding current circumstances than I can by trying to keep the personal history that used to come to mind when I'd consider journaling.

Another thing I've learned is that we are extremely brittle about this practice, as a society. Our thinking about keeping logs tends to be black & white (a common sign of lack of education on the matter) and we hesitate or think in terms like "OCD" when people around us really leverage this practice[1]. IMO this is really unfortunate.

Anyway I hope this expands on it a bit!

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SINPO_code

1. https://qz.com/507727/a-man-who-recorded-his-every-sneeze-fo... (example)

Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by foobarian on Wednesday November 07, 2018 @09:08PM (#18403881)
Just to chime in, I saw an old-timer keep a daily work log in a text file, and that appealed to me so I started it too. This was in 1998, and to this day I still keep writing new entries to that same text file pretty much every business day. Old test account credentials, notes on what got done, ticket numbers, ideas, unfinished todos, the works. It also helps with time sheets at the end of the month :-)
Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by knight17 on Thursday November 08, 2018 @02:55AM (#18404932)
Consistently recording logs is the importannt factor. You don't need fancy tools, a simple text-editor is all you need to have.

In Emacs one has org-mode, in Vim, vimwiki, even for plain Notepad, one can easily create a time log by pressing the F5 key. It will fill in the time and date automatically. Create a text file like day_log.txt, open it at the start of your day and press F5 key to fill the date and time. Just add couple of words on what you want to note. Done.

Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by wrycoder on Wednesday November 07, 2018 @11:22PM (#18404301)
Rather like back in the day people like Jefferson would keep a daily journal. Hand-written in a paper notebook of course, and still available 250 years later, without worrying about hardware and data conversion issues.
Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by navaati on Thursday November 08, 2018 @05:30AM (#18405437)
Let's not be too dramatic, ascii and utf8 will be readable in 250 years, that's a certainty.

As for the hardware issue, his notebook was kept because he was an important person. Average Joe's notebook had a much greater chance to go into the landfill.

That's the same for today persons' digital files: Average Joe laptop goes to landfill but I'm sure presidents and whatever's files are archived by State or their families, same as they did for the paper notebook back then.

Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by jeffwass on Thursday November 08, 2018 @02:31AM (#18404851)
How big is that file now, out of curiosity?
Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by arrty88 on Wednesday November 07, 2018 @11:03PM (#18404249)
I used to do this but now I just review my git history
Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by skandl on Thursday November 08, 2018 @02:12AM (#18404802)
> Another thing I've learned is that we are extremely brittle about this practice, as a society. Our thinking about keeping logs tends to be black & white (a common sign of lack of education on the matter) and we hesitate or think in terms like "OCD" when people around us really leverage this practice[1]. IMO this is really unfortunate.

That's some wisdom

Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by noobly on Wednesday November 07, 2018 @10:30PM (#18404153)
How does radio provide advantages for logging purposes? I log a bit, not as extensively as you seem to (but I'm always looking to incorporate more data and improved workflow ideas), but I can't clearly envision (due to my ignorance of radio, likely) the advantages radio would provide over just entering info into my laptop in a text file (including keeping clocked time, timestamps, etc).
Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by citrablue on Wednesday November 07, 2018 @11:11PM (#18404275)
The amateur radio community emphasizes logging all contacts. It builds a habit, especially since a lot of community interaction is around (friendly) competitions of who can make the most distant contacts, etc. All informal, but it teaches the habit through cultural acclimation.
Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by macintux on Thursday November 08, 2018 @11:07AM (#18407195)
Additionally the FCC mandates certain station records be maintained, so it's not entirely a community initiative.
Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by girmad on Thursday November 08, 2018 @07:25AM (#18405769)
I think you're on to something. I'd love to dig even deeper about this topic maybe with some examples of your logs, as well as the time commitment this practice requires.
Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by piffey on Thursday November 08, 2018 @09:07AM (#18406299)
Maybe not quite the same, but very similar, is the bullet journal fad that's going on right now. Lots of people have found bullet journaling (which is essentially logging) very useful in their daily life.
Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by wrmsr on Monday November 12, 2018 @09:45PM (#18438032)
> Finally, there's just something about breaking the silence and making that call when you're out in the middle of nowhere. Even if you're the world's biggest introvert, you might end up helping somebody by keeping your radio turned on and tuned in.

Words to live by.

Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by nopacience on Wednesday November 07, 2018 @07:22PM (#18403458)
care to explain how to download from ISS via radio ?
Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by themodelplumber on Wednesday November 07, 2018 @07:27PM (#18403478)
Sure, when the ISS passes over (and is transmitting SSTV--check the ARISS blog or issfanclub.com), tune your radio to 145.800, turn squelch off, and hold up your speaker to (for example) your smartphone which is running a decoder like Robot36. That's just one specific way...the app will auto-save an image to your phone when it's done. Example video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAHJfE7EBlI&t=12s

You can use an app like "ISS Detector" to get alerts when the ISS is over; that one also has an IAP that will show you any amateur radio satellite that's over your head, as well as the uplink and downlink frequencies. (Last time I was listening to cubesat AO-92, my social "nerd antenna" apparently went up to about 1 MW transmitting and I ended up pointing into the clear blue sky a lot while explaining to interested random passers-by why people still use ham radio. :-))

Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by ObsoleteNerd on Wednesday November 07, 2018 @07:37PM (#18403509)
That's so cool, and single-handedly just convinced me to take the plunge and buy a radio to learn more. I've been tempted for a while but had no idea you could do this. I liked the idea of talking to people from far away, but being able to receive stuff from ISS is just next-level awesome.
Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by themodelplumber on Wednesday November 07, 2018 @07:44PM (#18403534)
Right on! You picked a great time in history, with a ham operator (Astronaut Serena Auñón-Chancellor) currently on the ISS and making contacts. It's exciting stuff. :-) Here's one operator's contact from this last Saturday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwm-6tf7KCs

(That amazing feeling post-contact...funny that he left in those clips, but I definitely identify with the adrenaline rush. :-))

Be sure to check out #hamradio and #hamr on Twitter, and /r/amateurradio on Reddit. Edit: And your local club, too! And welcome!

Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by avip on Thursday November 08, 2018 @04:36AM (#18405283)
I can't figure out why, but that clip really made my day. Thanks for sharing it.
Re:We're in a Golden Age for Amateur Radio by proctor on Wednesday November 07, 2018 @09:42PM (#18404006)
here's an example of the decoding process

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkH5yV4__3U