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Re:Peter Thiel Pledges to Support Trump’s 2020 Campaign by snakeboy on Friday November 02, 2018 @11:54AM (#18363956)
I find it a bit humorous that Peter Thiel is "bullish" on life-extension research while fervently backing a party that is doing everything in its power to make Earth uninhabitable in the near future.
Re:Peter Thiel Pledges to Support Trump’s 2020 Campaign by hokumguru on Friday November 02, 2018 @11:56AM (#18363979)
A common misconception. I think the average conservative definitely believes that we need to take measures to protect this planet. We just don't necessarily believe that government should be the method of action. Traditionally the market is vastly more efficient at solving these hard problems...
Re:Peter Thiel Pledges to Support Trump’s 2020 Campaign by iamlemec on Friday November 02, 2018 @12:19PM (#18364227)
The precondition here is, of course, incorrect. The latest Pew survey puts the percentage of Republicans who believe in anthropogenic climate change at about 25%.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/14/many-republi...

Re:Peter Thiel Pledges to Support Trump’s 2020 Campaign by dgemm on Friday November 02, 2018 @12:13PM (#18364169)
Markets are efficient because firms optimize along essentially one dimension. It is naive to think that markets will magically solve any problem that does not naturally align with that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

Re:Peter Thiel Pledges to Support Trump’s 2020 Campaign by unchocked on Friday November 02, 2018 @12:00PM (#18364013)
I’d appreciate hearing a conservative history of markets correcting unpriced externalities.
Re:Peter Thiel Pledges to Support Trump’s 2020 Campaign by mcphage on Friday November 02, 2018 @01:33PM (#18364980)
Here you go:
Re:Peter Thiel Pledges to Support Trump’s 2020 Campaign by Patient0 on Friday November 02, 2018 @12:25PM (#18364295)
The problem is that the market is not great at solving "Tragedy of the Commons" situations. The ideal solution, IMO, is to agree a cap on CO2 emmissions, but make them tradable, so that the market can be used to figure out the most efficient way to limit the emissions.
Re:Peter Thiel Pledges to Support Trump’s 2020 Campaign by babypuncher on Friday November 02, 2018 @12:02PM (#18364036)
The market needs incentive to solve these long term problems, but our entire economy is built around incentivising short term growth over long-term stability.
Re:Peter Thiel Pledges to Support Trump’s 2020 Campaign by Apocryphon on Friday November 02, 2018 @12:04PM (#18364057)
Re:Peter Thiel Pledges to Support Trump’s 2020 Campaign by TheAdamAndChe on Friday November 02, 2018 @12:02PM (#18364039)
I am curious, how could the market efficiently avoid the continued increase in atmospheric CO2 without government interventions? Isn't the continued use of incredibly cheap energy sources like oil too tempting?
Re:Peter Thiel Pledges to Support Trump’s 2020 Campaign by moccachino on Friday November 02, 2018 @12:08PM (#18364106)
I think the misconception is on your side here. For the longest time, conservatives said that climate change was a hoax, then that it might be happening but it's no big deal, then now it seems the position is that it may be a big deal but it's a natural process and humans shouldn't try to solve it.