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Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by sjs382 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @11:13AM (#18239840)
So, we're in agreement that this sort of thing should 1) be paid for, 2) not readable by the provider, and 3) maintenance-free for the user.

I still don't understand why this is a hardware play. There are advantages to owning the hardware but none of those advantages seem to apply here.

The hardware feels like a bit of an albatross.

Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by jwilcoxson on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @02:41PM (#18242259)
I don't see how we should automatically trust them because we "own" the hardware. If its not open source and able to be verified by third parties, what does it matter if we have the "keys"? $500 for proprietary hardware just seems odd considering the goal here.
Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by bostonvaulter2 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @04:15PM (#18243323)
How could it NOT be a hardware play? Then how else can you verify and trust that you know what code is running in some datacenter in who knows where?
Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by sjs382 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @09:43PM (#18245301)
It doesn't matter what code is running server side, as long as decryption happens client side and the keys are never transmitted to the server.
Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by wmf on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @04:31PM (#18243497)
Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by garry on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @11:34AM (#18240051)
If you want to truly control your data, you've got to control your hardware too. See: Lavabit.
Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by wmf on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @03:27PM (#18242825)
But going all the way to the end of that tradeoff is so expensive. It seems like a Helm VM would be 90% as secure and also 90% cheaper.
Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by sjs382 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @09:41PM (#18245297)
But with Helm, we don't control the hardware, do we?