How Employers Track Their Workers

Re:How Employers Track Their Workers by joewee on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @08:07PM (#18234400)

True, their are companies that have founding principles that are employee friendly, but once you have an official HR role, their job is the complete opposite. Similarly, corporate counsel is responsible to the corporate entity (are companies people?), even if that means recommending removal of the founder. A organization with employee friendly values has leadership willing to challenge HR and Legal, but that means a majority of the leadership has to be onboard. So yes, family owned businesses, tightly controlled/owned businesses probably fall into that category.

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Re:How Employers Track Their Workers by rifung on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @10:52PM (#18235755)

> True, their are companies that have founding principles that are employee friendly, but once you have an official HR role, their job is the complete opposite.

I really don't like or agree with this characterization at all. Sure part of their job is to prevent the company from being sued but part of their job is (usually) also keeping employees happy.

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Re:How Employers Track Their Workers by krapp on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @05:51AM (#18237586)

>but part of their job is (usually) also keeping employees happy.

Because happy employees are less likely to be a legal liability, and happy employees are more productive and more compliant with company policy.

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Re:How Employers Track Their Workers by rifung on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @02:51PM (#18242378)

> happy employees are more productive and more compliant with company policy

And also less likely to leave but why is that a problem?

In the end all employees are only there to make the company money. I really don't see why HR is any better or worse than the engineering department. Everyone is just trying to make a living so I don't see any point in looking down on them for it.

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Re:How Employers Track Their Workers by krapp on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @06:08PM (#18244276)

People shouldn't look down on HR, however they often present themselves as the friendly, impartial intermediaries between employees and the company when they aren't. You should approach talking to them the way you would talking to the police: don't if you can avoid it, but otherwise, assume anything you say can and will be used against you if it's in the company's best interests to do so.

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Re:How Employers Track Their Workers by CaptainZapp on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @04:45AM (#18237272)

I work for a global company. When I have an HR issue I call some call center located in Poland, where they open a ticket.

The process is not different than any old tech support call.

Managers have a dedicated line, which leads to a local HR contact.

Do you see anything in this whole process designed to keep employees happy?

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Re:How Employers Track Their Workers by C1sc0cat on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @05:32AM (#18237511)

MM will be fun if some one in Poland with no idea of labour law in the UK or USA makes a mistake :-)

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Re:How Employers Track Their Workers by joewee on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @11:53PM (#18236012)

A company is made to benefit its shareholders. Sometimes employees are also the shareholders but this has historically not been the case. Historically, because of the focus on benefiting it’s owners above all else, companies have sometimes resorted to using slaves and child labor. The concept of employee-shareholders is a fairly recent invention. The concept of employee rights only gained traction in the USA during the industrial revolution.

Agricultural cooperatives, might come close...

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Re:How Employers Track Their Workers by C1sc0cat on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @05:33AM (#18237517)

Worker coops is a better match, producer coops are rather different as its the farm owners that are members not all their workers.

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