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Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by moorhosj on Monday October 15, 2018 @02:51PM (#18222544)
>It's a tricky problem to really make sense of though just because investors are so diverse.

Are they? I think it could be argued that investors are one of the least diverse groups.

Analysis of 1,500 investors:

==70% are white

==40% of venture investors have attended Stanford or Harvard

==One percent of venture capitalists are Latinx and only three percent are black.

-https://blog.usejournal.com/where-did-you-go-to-school-bde54...

Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by nilkn on Monday October 15, 2018 @06:54PM (#18224721)
For what it's worth, something like 75% of the US is phenotypically white (including white Americans with Hispanic or Latin heritage), so perhaps that one metric is tracking more favorably than you're giving it credit for.
Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by justaguyhere on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @11:09AM (#18229991)
70% are white

Assuming these are American numbers, wouldn't you expect it? Wikipedia says 60% of Americans are White, and the number is higher if you include Hispanic people - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans

So it would make sense for white people to be the majority in any group, isn't it? Maybe there are exceptions, like certain sports.

Just to be clear, I am not white. I am only wondering about the numbers, not about any group's behavior.

Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by wpietri on Monday October 15, 2018 @03:24PM (#18222833)
I'm not sure why this is getting downvoted; it's entirely relevant. Sexual harassment is abuse of power. Power is disproportionately in the hands of certain historically favored groups, so a) people in those groups will be able to get away with more, and b) people growing up in those groups will be used to getting away with more.
Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by thereare5lights on Monday October 15, 2018 @03:34PM (#18222936)
It's getting downvoted because people don't like it when other people point out that the groups they belong to contain abusive people. It's typical tribal behavior.
Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by dang on Monday October 15, 2018 @06:19PM (#18224401)
Please don't break the guidelines by going on about downvoting. Instead, if you see an unfairly downvoted comment, simply give it a corrective upvote and move on. Other users will typically do so too, leaving comments like this one orphaned and inaccurate.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by yorwba on Monday October 15, 2018 @05:47PM (#18224116)
Or maybe it's getting downvoted because it's trying to counter an argument about diversity of past life experiences with an argument about diversity of class membership, which is quite reductionist.

Class membership can be useful as a proxy for e.g. power structures, but if you're already looking at investors, the most important factor influencing power structures is that they have a lot of money. Maybe there are differences in the ways white and black people with lots of money abuse their power, but that'd surprise me.

Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by moorhosj on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @07:13AM (#18228322)
Nobody made an argument about class membership. I simply presented some demographic data of VC investors.

Meanwhile, you completely ignore the data about investors being heavily skewed towards two specific universities. Isn’t that a past life experience? Isn’t VC investor a “class” in itself?

Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by wang_li on Monday October 15, 2018 @04:21PM (#18223337)
I doubt many VC angels are reading and voting on HN.
Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by Fomite on Monday October 15, 2018 @04:55PM (#18223658)
Many people include aspirational targets (wildly successful tech folks who went on to be VCs/angels) in their mental notion of "tribe".

See also the quote about the American poor viewing themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires, and voting to support the interest of actual millionaires.

Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by yourbandsucks on Monday October 15, 2018 @06:41PM (#18224603)
Did you really need to bring race into the topic? The word 'diversity' has an actual meaning, you know.

The comment you're replying to was very clear in that they were talking about career and background diversity -- as in, VCs have their money for diverse reasons.

There were like 5 bullet points about it, making it crystal clear what kind of diversity was being discussed.

Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by stephengillie on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @01:17AM (#18226754)
One person's diverse group is another's monoculture.
Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by moorhosj on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @06:59AM (#18228260)
I also brought educational background into the argument (40% from Harvard or Stanford). Why didn’t you comment on that data point and instead focus on the race data?

It’s understandable that you want to focus on the diversity of outcomes, just know that others might be interested in the inputs that led to those outcomes.

Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by brenschluss on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @01:33AM (#18226824)
The only people who don’t like race bring “brought into” a topic are white.

For the rest of us, race is already here.

Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by dsajames on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @05:34AM (#18227970)
Bullshit. My large extended family is mostly "the rest of us" and doesn't like race being brought into a topic.
Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by praneshp on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @07:45AM (#18228501)
> The only people

There is at least one exception in me.

Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by praneshp on Monday October 15, 2018 @09:03PM (#18225557)
The way I see it, your metrics and your parent's metrics for diversity are different. I guess your point is that the 70% white investors think as a block and can be generalized?
Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by moorhosj on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @07:16AM (#18228338)
==I guess your point is that the 70% white investors think as a block and can be generalized?==

I’m not sure how you arrived at that assumption. The point is that this is the data (as pulled by one person), you have chosen to take the giant leap that somehow those people “think as a block and can be generalized.” Why no mention of the other data points and focus solely on this one?

Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by glibgil on Monday October 15, 2018 @02:57PM (#18222594)
Don't forget ==82% are male
Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by stretchwithme on Monday October 15, 2018 @06:27PM (#18224478)
And, apparently, women are in a position to change that if they want to.

https://www.businessinsider.com/infographic-women-control-th...

Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by Alex3917 on Monday October 15, 2018 @08:01PM (#18225242)
I guarantee if you follow the links they cite as 'sources', they will just cite other infographics or news articles.
Re:Survey of YC female founders on sexual harassment, coerci... by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @02:03AM (#18226971)
It's not that, they're just not explaining the reasons.

For example, women control a majority of assets in large part because they statistically live longer than men. This makes them a higher percentage of the population in general, but a much higher percentage of the population of retirees with retirement savings. And they do most consumer spending because they're typically the ones who do the shopping for the family, even if on average half or more of the money is from the husband. The numbers are largely accurate.

Though it's not clear how many 80 year old widows are inclined to invest their nest egg in a startup.