Re:Ambiguous words and dictionary hacks (2007)
by jerrre on Monday October 15, 2018 @08:08AM
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If other languages can exist where pork and pig are the same word, doesn't it prove the opposite?
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Re:Ambiguous words and dictionary hacks (2007)
by yorwba on Monday October 15, 2018 @08:39AM
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Those languages usually qualify pork as "pig meat" if necessary. (Schweinefleisch in German, 猪肉 in Chinese)
Re:Ambiguous words and dictionary hacks (2007)
by zyx321 on Monday October 15, 2018 @09:11AM
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But only if necessary. In most cases the "meat" either implied ("What kind of meat is that?" "Pig") or replaced by the specific name of the cut (Schweineschnitzel, Putenbrust, Lammkotlett).
Re:Ambiguous words and dictionary hacks (2007)
by cm2012 on Monday October 15, 2018 @09:31AM
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The "extra" english words succinctly add context then.
Re:Ambiguous words and dictionary hacks (2007)
by zyx321 on Monday October 15, 2018 @09:54AM
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They only exist because nobles wanted to pretend that the food they eat is so much fancier than that of the peasants, so they insisted on using French to describe it.
Re:Ambiguous words and dictionary hacks (2007)
by boomlinde on Monday October 15, 2018 @12:42PM
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Assuming that this is true, that also adds a distinct meaning to the word so that saying "pork" as opposed to "pig meat" would have served as an indication of class status in addition to e.g. what you'll be eating for dinner.
Re:Ambiguous words and dictionary hacks (2007)
by mikeash on Monday October 15, 2018 @09:52AM
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I think a better proof would be “chicken” in English. If we get by without the distinction for one animal, it doesn’t make sense that we’d need it for another.
Re:Ambiguous words and dictionary hacks (2007)
by sornaensis on Monday October 15, 2018 @09:46AM
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The poster I replied to said there was 'no useful distinction' between the words, which is provably false. They are synonyms, not the same words, despite the fact that their usages might overlap in many contexts, there are contexts where only one is really appropriate.