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Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by msaharia on Sunday October 07, 2018 @02:40AM (#18159161)
I shifted to Linux full time this year from MacOS. The only thing I desperately need is a replacement for is MS Office. Any ideas? I'm a power user, which Google word is simply not good for.
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by djsumdog on Sunday October 07, 2018 @03:58AM (#18159384)
I know everyone is suggesting Libreoffice (and it has honestly gotten a lot better recently) but I remember once when my laptop died and all I had was a shitty old Centrino someone lent me, I ended up using the Microsoft online powerpoint tool to make a presentation that was due.

The web versions of MS Office tools are actually pretty well build and feel pretty close to their desktop counterparts.

Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by swiley on Sunday October 07, 2018 @10:18AM (#18160639)
The web version of word lacks an equation editor (someone told me this is partly due to MS loosing the source code for the one in word.)

If you have to write papers with a lot of math in them libreoffice's equation editor is way better anyway. It rarely crashes and uses it's own simple markup language instead of the finicky WYSIWYG editor in word.

Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by msaharia on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:38AM (#18165804)
The killer features missing for me

1. Word - track changes 2. PowerPoint - equation editor

Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by msaharia on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:37AM (#18165793)
Libre office is not even 10% MS Office. Don't know why people recommend it. It messes up my word formatting.
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by Piskvorrr on Monday October 08, 2018 @07:06AM (#18166278)
Current versions are pretty good - and while MS Office is a veritable power tool (I know no real equivalent to MS Access), most users use ~10% of the functionality; sufficient for many, esp. at the price.

As for the formatting - yeah, MS doesn't seem to follow its own document formatting standards, even for the newer documents. That puts other suites in a hard spot: a) follow standards and present imperfect documents, or b) invest immense resources into bug-for-bug compatibility?

Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by mcny on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @09:43AM (#18184738)
Joel Spolsky is obviously not neutral having been an Excel manager but he wrote that while everyone uses less than 20% of Excel, not everyone uses the same 20% of Excel.

I don't know Excel but I know there are people running entire departments on Excel spreadsheets.

Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by Piskvorrr on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @11:32AM (#18185804)
Indeed. I do not see a contradiction between that and what I have written.

(Having seen many Excel spreadsheets, 80% of the work is done by rudimentary means: pivot tables are Advanced Magic in this regard)

Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by swiley on Sunday October 07, 2018 @10:19AM (#18160648)
Pandoc is definitely my favorite way to do word processing.

You can edit the markdown in vim which IMO is mentally easier to write prose in because you're not distracted with all the formatting and spelling. You use aspell for spell check and pandoc/pdflatex for typsetting.

Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by Zolomon on Sunday October 07, 2018 @02:50AM (#18159193)
LaTeX[0] might work for you.

[0]: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX

Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by sesqu on Sunday October 07, 2018 @11:09AM (#18160922)
And if you're willing to consider LaTeX, I'd definitely recommend LyX.
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by msaharia on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:41AM (#18165838)
Neither latex nor LyX is a replacement for Office.
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by sesqu on Monday October 08, 2018 @08:12AM (#18166686)
That depends on what you use Office for - which is why I qualified my statement. I wouldn't recommend them as general replacements, but they exceed my documentation needs.
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by bloopernova on Sunday October 07, 2018 @03:09AM (#18159239)
May I suggest LibreOffice? Either via your Linux distribution's package manager, or as a Flatpak from https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.libreoffice.LibreOffice

It should be able to handle most use cases

Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by geokon on Sunday October 07, 2018 @04:11AM (#18159418)
I'd recommend AppImages over flatpak. They're generally more stable
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by msaharia on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:40AM (#18165833)
Libre office is simply not good enough, tbh. The first thing I tried.
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by AsyncAwait on Sunday October 07, 2018 @06:03AM (#18159782)
The obvious suggestion would be LibreOffice, but if that doesn't cut it for you, there's also SoftMaker Office[1], which has better compatibility with Office documents.

1 - https://www.softmaker.com/en/softmaker-office

Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by ptman on Sunday October 07, 2018 @02:52AM (#18159201)
LibreOffice, ms office under wine or in a vm
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by saltedshiv on Sunday October 07, 2018 @08:24PM (#18163359)
If you're not opposed to non-free software and like quality products, I highly recommend you check out Crossover[0]. It allows you to run Microsoft Office on your linux machine.

[0](https://www.codeweavers.com/products/)

Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by msaharia on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:39AM (#18165825)
I am totally fine with non-free software. I'll check this out.
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by AnaniasAnanas on Sunday October 07, 2018 @04:47AM (#18159535)
May I suggest org-mode? It can act as a pretty good replacement for Excel, Word, PowerPoint, and even FrontPage. You can even use latex inside org-mode documents and it has an integration with gnuplot.
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by jcelerier on Sunday October 07, 2018 @05:36AM (#18159707)
can you drag'n'drop images graphically and position them in a visual canvas with org mode and add sounds and gifs and videos and center text by pressing a button ? if not it's not a replacement for powerpoint.
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by crooked-v on Sunday October 07, 2018 @05:43AM (#18159724)
This comment is a living example of Poe's Law as applied to Linux fans.
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by msaharia on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:43AM (#18165855)
A perfect reflection of why Linux is a failure on desktop. If org-mode and latex are sane replacements for office for average users, may the kernel gods save us all.And this is from someone who knows how to use both.
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by amaccuish on Sunday October 07, 2018 @08:54AM (#18160329)
I'd recommend onlyoffice. Has a similar GUI to MS office and it uses the doc/ppt(x) formats internally, so it's pretty compatible. I also run MS Office in Wine for certain things.
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by yogeshp on Monday October 08, 2018 @02:31AM (#18164615)
If you have licensed Windows, install Virtualbox on Ubuntu and install Windows in that. Share a drive between them and you should be able to maintain Office documents that way.
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by msaharia on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:39AM (#18165817)
Interesting. I have a Windows partitioned. Can I use that license for a virtual installation?
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by bart42_0 on Sunday October 07, 2018 @03:15AM (#18159256)
Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by sjellis on Sunday October 07, 2018 @03:20AM (#18159273)
OpenOffice development has been virtually stagnant for several years: LibreOffice is the actively developed version (and the one that Linux distributions support).