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Re:Upgrading GitHub from Rails 3.2 to 5.2 by j45 on Friday September 28, 2018 @06:48PM (#18097682)
Many of these languages, while productive in their own ways, almost universally need a framework to extend to the web.

The few languages were web-first were often chastised for not being complete languages.

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Re:Upgrading GitHub from Rails 3.2 to 5.2 by jacob019 on Friday September 28, 2018 @08:34PM (#18098056)
Not sure what you mean. A basic HTTP webserver can be implemented in a couple dozen lines of code using only sockets in most languages. Something more complex requires more code, which is often packed into a "framework", it doesn't belong baked into the language.
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Re:Upgrading GitHub from Rails 3.2 to 5.2 by j45 on Saturday September 29, 2018 @11:49PM (#18104363)
Ruby uses a framework like Rails to reach the web more effectively.

Python can use a framework like Django to reach the web more effectively.

Compared to..

A language like PHP in the beginning was more directly coupled to the web (for better or worse).

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