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Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by blattimwind on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @09:06AM (#18014911)
> The chip in question, the Allwinner A13, is a 1GHz ARM Cortex-A8 processor. While it’s not much

When did 1 GHz cores become "not much" for small embedded systems?

Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by Drakim on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @09:19AM (#18014994)
It barely even manages to run node.js in a docker! /s

My guess would be that a lot of of embedded things like kitchen appliances tend to run touchscreens with graphical interfaces these days.

Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by colejohnson66 on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @09:42AM (#18015194)
You can run a small touchscreen with an Arduino. You also don’t need a fast processor for a big touchscreen; just enough RAM and a dedicated video chip
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by dcbadacd on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:01PM (#18016359)
Yeah, and that's how you get laggy user interfaces that at least I despise. Spend that 4€ on a better chip.
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by ben_w on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:46PM (#18016840)
How did we manage non-laggy user interfaces back in 1995 when 120 MHz single core/single chip, registers slower than modern RAM, and no dedicated graphics processor was top of the line?
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by pjmlp on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @02:19PM (#18017774)
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by naasking on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @03:39PM (#18018461)
And by using a highly restricted colour palette, low resolution, no anti-aliasing, etc.
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by jjoonathan on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:20PM (#18017203)
By living without 20 layers of middleware.
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by nambit on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @02:01PM (#18017632)
With physical buttons instead of touch screens?
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by camoby on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @02:06PM (#18017671)
“Vive La Resolution!”
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by snaky on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @10:02PM (#18021077)
It appears for world-class 'small-screen' interface you need a couple of Linux-capable SoC chips and a decent FPGA https://xdevs.com/review/dmm6500/
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by blattimwind on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:00PM (#18016982)
It's scientifically proven that almost every post-2000 UI has slower response than a DOS input mask.
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by tossandturn on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @11:37AM (#18016163)
Displays with relatively simple off-board processing are common, too; you can often run a big display pretty reasonably with a 16MHz Arduino: buydisplay.com
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by imtringued on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @10:28AM (#18015616)
The microarchitecture matters. Even ARM's out of order reference cores are very slow compared to intel CPUs. Now take an obsolete decade old core at mediocre 1 GHz and you suddenly have something that is cheap but also extremely slow compared to even a raspberry pi 3 which is also slow as hell.
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by Zardoz84 on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:22PM (#18016587)
so something it's very wrong, if a CPU at 20mhz can run softly a GUI at 800x600 and a CPU at 1ghz can't
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by gh02t on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:26PM (#18017259)
A 1 ghz CPU absolutely can run a smooth touchscreen GUI, I think what OP meant is that it's not gonna be capable of running a snazzy Electron interface or some other trendy framework that makes everything super easy. You can't really afford the overhead that software running on a modern desktop can, so it will require a bit more work.

For reference, the original iPhone CPU was a single ARM11 core clocked at 412 MHz. Obviously it's possible, this Allwinner chip would run circles around that.

Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by cdcfa78156ae5 on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @03:48PM (#18018528)
> snazzy Electron interface or some other trendy framework that makes everything super easy

Except that Electron is harder to use than pre-.NET Visual Basic, or Delphi, or especially HyperCard. All of the developer convenience of web apps, with all of the great performance of web apps!

Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by Zardoz84 on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @08:27AM (#18023660)
I had smooth GUIs made with Visual Basic 3 running on my old 386@40

And my A1200 with a 68020@20 have a pretty smooth GUI

Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by uxp100 on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @09:23AM (#18015026)
I think they are referring to the features of the SOC there. They follow it up with a mention that it doesn't have an HDMI controller on chip, I don't think it has an Ethernet controller either.

Really though, I don't think the SOC is that bare bones either.

Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor by floatboth on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @11:09AM (#18015927)
Since quad-core Cortex-A53 chips kinda became the norm.