Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by Drakim on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @09:19AM
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It barely even manages to run node.js in a docker! /s
My guess would be that a lot of of embedded things like kitchen appliances tend to run touchscreens with graphical interfaces these days.
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by colejohnson66 on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @09:42AM
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You can run a small touchscreen with an Arduino. You also don’t need a fast processor for a big touchscreen; just enough RAM and a dedicated video chip
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by dcbadacd on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:01PM
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Yeah, and that's how you get laggy user interfaces that at least I despise. Spend that 4€ on a better chip.
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by ben_w on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:46PM
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How did we manage non-laggy user interfaces back in 1995 when 120 MHz single core/single chip, registers slower than modern RAM, and no dedicated graphics processor was top of the line?
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by pjmlp on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @02:19PM
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By writing lots of optimizations in hand optimized Assembly.
http://www.jagregory.com/abrash-zen-of-asm/
https://www.amazon.com/Windows-Assembly-Language-Systems-Pro...
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by naasking on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @03:39PM
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And by using a highly restricted colour palette, low resolution, no anti-aliasing, etc.
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by jjoonathan on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:20PM
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By living without 20 layers of middleware.
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by nambit on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @02:01PM
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With physical buttons instead of touch screens?
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by camoby on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @02:06PM
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“Vive La Resolution!”
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by snaky on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @10:02PM
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It appears for world-class 'small-screen' interface you need a couple of Linux-capable SoC chips and a decent FPGA https://xdevs.com/review/dmm6500/
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by blattimwind on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:00PM
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It's scientifically proven that almost every post-2000 UI has slower response than a DOS input mask.
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by tossandturn on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @11:37AM
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Displays with relatively simple off-board processing are common, too; you can often run a big display pretty reasonably with a 16MHz Arduino: buydisplay.com
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by imtringued on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @10:28AM
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The microarchitecture matters. Even ARM's out of order reference cores are very slow compared to intel CPUs. Now take an obsolete decade old core at mediocre 1 GHz and you suddenly have something that is cheap but also extremely slow compared to even a raspberry pi 3 which is also slow as hell.
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by Zardoz84 on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:22PM
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so something it's very wrong, if a CPU at 20mhz can run softly a GUI at 800x600 and a CPU at 1ghz can't
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by gh02t on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:26PM
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A 1 ghz CPU absolutely can run a smooth touchscreen GUI, I think what OP meant is that it's not gonna be capable of running a snazzy Electron interface or some other trendy framework that makes everything super easy. You can't really afford the overhead that software running on a modern desktop can, so it will require a bit more work.
For reference, the original iPhone CPU was a single ARM11 core clocked at 412 MHz. Obviously it's possible, this Allwinner chip would run circles around that.
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by cdcfa78156ae5 on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @03:48PM
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> snazzy Electron interface or some other trendy framework that makes everything super easy
Except that Electron is harder to use than pre-.NET Visual Basic, or Delphi, or especially HyperCard. All of the developer convenience of web apps, with all of the great performance of web apps!
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by Zardoz84 on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @08:27AM
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I had smooth GUIs made with Visual Basic 3 running on my old 386@40
And my A1200 with a 68020@20 have a pretty smooth GUI
Re:A $1, Linux-Capable, Hand-Solderable Processor
by uxp100 on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @09:23AM
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I think they are referring to the features of the SOC there. They follow it up with a mention that it doesn't have an HDMI controller on chip, I don't think it has an Ethernet controller either.
Really though, I don't think the SOC is that bare bones either.
When did 1 GHz cores become "not much" for small embedded systems?