Re:Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chrome...
by Guest9812398 on Sunday September 09, 2018 @07:11AM
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I had a Gmail account for a secondary email address that I used at times. One day I logged in with my email and password, and Google said I needed to further verify my identity. Well, my security question was a bogus one because I was confident with my password manager and backups it would not be needed. But, I guess I was wrong, because I didn't anticipate that knowing the password wouldn't be enough for Google. I never got access to the account again.
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Re:Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chrome...
by richrichardsson on Sunday September 09, 2018 @08:41AM
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Stupid "security" questions, I've started answering them like "what's your favourite colour?" - "colour" or "what was your first pet's name" - "pet".
There are a few things that make me wonder if I can trust a company. Security questions, stupid password restrictions, sending me a password in plain text via email.
Re:Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chrome...
by dylan604 on Sunday September 09, 2018 @10:46AM
(#17946103)
I recently was forced to do this by my home ISP. I used my password manager to generate 32 character length passwords, and then stored that info in the manager. However, when I attempted to save this info, the website responded with something along the lines of, 'we're sorry, please come back and try this again at another time.' This was preventing me from paying my bill online as it would not let me access my account with this info. I did this for 3 days straight. On the 4th day, I changed my answers to very simple responses similar to yours and the entire thing worked. It's not that it was fixed, because I tried the complex values first on day 4. Their system couldn't support such a value, and failed at letting me know that.
Re:Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chrome...
by winceschwab on Sunday September 09, 2018 @08:17PM
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So, effectively, three security questions, like this:
Favorite color? red
Favorite band? yes
First vehicle? car
In reality, they actually reduce complexity, defeating a 12 character password requirement with numbers, uppercase, lowercase and punctuation characters, because the total space of complexity can be possibly less than 9 case-insensitive letters.
Re:Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chrome...
by jdeibele on Sunday September 09, 2018 @12:39PM
(#17946640)
I used to give my real birthday. Then I kept reading about how knowing that plus your address (usually easy to find on the internet - whitepages.com, etc.) got someone a long ways toward imitating you.
So I started making up birthdays but would have problems because I didn't remember them. So now I just use the epoch, which I think somebody here suggested.
Re:Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chrome...
by gordo4 on Sunday September 09, 2018 @01:44PM
(#17946921)
I put January 1, 1970 as my birthday, and sometimes I can tell sites convert to timestamp and then it rejects my entry because it evaluates to zero which is falsely.
Re:Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chrome...
by gambiting on Sunday September 09, 2018 @01:58PM
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The issue then is that some services will require a copy of your ID to recover/unlock your account, and if the birth dates don't match they won't do it.
Re:Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chrome...
by Spooky23 on Sunday September 09, 2018 @07:40PM
(#17948391)
I always use plausible typos.
Re:Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chrome...
by 5555624 on Sunday September 09, 2018 @02:20PM
(#17947068)
I use my sister's birthday. Other than the year, it's close to mine, and I don't forget it.
Re:Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chrome...
by gargravarr on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @02:39PM
(#17971700)
I use the registration date of my car (which is 4 years older than me) since at least I can look it up.
Re:Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chrome...
by protomyth on Sunday September 09, 2018 @09:38AM
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I tell the students that you really need to lie and put in some words that you remember that go with the question. Think of it as a challenge/ response, not an answer.
Re:Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chrome...
by vezycash on Sunday September 09, 2018 @07:32AM
(#17945423)
Next time, add your security questions to your password manager.
Re:Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chrome...
by pasbesoin on Sunday September 09, 2018 @03:00PM
(#17947230)
Security Q/A are de facto passwords. Treat accordingly.
Further, they're often a sign that a human employee providing support can override and manually authenticate a user. Whether or not that is really the correct user. Treat your entire account with them accordingly.
Re:Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chrome...
by jdeibele on Sunday September 09, 2018 @12:20PM
(#17946561)
Yes. I answer something like "favorite color" with "blue green red" or "blue was the color of my first bike" if I can. I end up with something like this:
pet: answer school: answer friend: answer