It's also the prudish push against sexualization...

Even in otherwise conservative countries (like Italy), sexualization, in media and in society at large, just wasn't a big deal in continental Europe...

You could watch things in national broadcasting that would be off limits for Americans for example. And similarly for movies and books.

So I think there is this point where as an individual or society one can switch contexts easily and readily between apparent contradictions. In this case being naked is not the same as sex. Contrast that with the fetish parades or even some aspects of the pride parades where nakedness is sex. Anyhow, it looks like they are losjng their "innocent" context switching abilities due to “awareness” by media exposure, advertising, tourists, global norms, etc.

Yeah, I wonder to what extent this dovetails with things like sexualization being reduced in American media... but that said I don't think the reduction in sexualization should be dismissed as 'prudery'. For example, air hostesses used to be pretty sexualized in terms of their clothing, advertisements etc, but that's not necessarily a healthy work environment.

Immigrants are basically socially invisible in that sort of context, they have no ability to exert social pressure whatsoever. It would be obvious to anyone actually living here that you're simply wrong.

Tell that to immigrants that followed my friend in a public street at around 10pm and tried to shamed her "why are you wearing this skirt" and such last month.

And she was not even that provocatively dressed (way less than the average working class girl -- what english would call a "chav" -- in her late teens going out for a drink on friday/saturday)

Where did this happen? Even if it actually happened, do you seriously feel that this actually works in changing the attitude of a society?

Changing behavior and changing attitude are not the same thing. If you would like to go e.g. topless, but have concerns about the behaviors or peoples around you then you haven't changed your attitude - but you have changed your behavior. I'm not nit picking semantics as this is really a very important issue in society today -- you cannot derive how people think from how people act.

>Even if it actually happened

You could not believe me (as a random person on the web), but your phrasing implies that you also consider this somehow beyond the realm of possibility. It happened in Athens, if that matters.

>do you seriously feel that this actually works in changing the attitude of a society

Yeah, where's the surprise? Changes in demographics, like an increased presence of people with more conservative values in an area, can, and do, change the attitudes of a society, just like immigration can influence cuisine, music, religion, and other cultural aspects.

It's not beyond the realm of possibility; I recall a convert to Islam (that looked rather out of place with his red hair, etc.) in the UK trying to perform "sharia patrols" in the streets.

I contest believing that young people going to beach in France or Italy would give even passing thought to what these people think or want, because it's completly outside the realm of my experience of the people that I've ever known to go to the beach, ever. A vastly more likely consideration is avoiding unwanted attention from people that approve of mostly undressed girls.

I don't think that you understand (I don't know, maybe you live here?) how socially -isolated- immigrants are.

>I contest believing that young people going to beach in France or Italy would give even passing thought to what these people think or want, because it's completly outside the realm of my experience of the people that I've ever known to go to the beach, ever.

On the beach, no, but it can be a factor on how people dress to go outside on the city, or to avoid certain streets, and so on.

Let’s call a horse a horse and be clear that your “un-PC” is thinly veiled racism.

Or, you know, let's call a spade a space, and that the "thinly veiled racism" accusation is just a thought stopper, based on the a priori premise that a certain group of people can do no harm just because they're in distress themselves...

what race has to do with this? Go topless in say Iran and report back on your experience. You do realize that Iran is "land of the Aryans" literally so while anything you disagree with you can easily dismiss by labeling it racism in this case you gonna have pretty tough time.