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Re:Magic Leap One now available for $2295 by 40acres on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @02:55PM (#17861750)
It's interesting reading startup literature regarding MVPs and iterating quickly and notice that almost none of it applies to the AR/VR space. Between Magic Leap and Ubiquty6 it seems like the most interesting players in AR are more notable for their funding rounds than for anything else. Magic Leap is rolling out their own hardware so it's more understandable but its really hard to justify spending $2K on a first generation AR device.

If I had to put money on it I think Magic Leap will go the way of General Magic, lots of cool tech and ideas in a product that was ultimately too expensive and too late to drive the company forward but will be looked upon as a great innovator once another company uses their inventions and packages it in a low cost, user friendly interface.

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Re:Magic Leap One now available for $2295 by oihoaihsfoiahsf on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @04:06PM (#17862386)
Startup literature about MVPs is mostly relevant to software products, which are inexpensive to develop compared to almost anything else.
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Re:Magic Leap One now available for $2295 by dantheman on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @04:21PM (#17862507)
Oculus started out as an MVP. It was a kickstarter project.
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Re:Magic Leap One now available for $2295 by eganist on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @03:53PM (#17862285)
> ultimately too expensive and too late

Their only (admittedly public) rival in the space is Microsoft, and adoption of HoloLens even as a developer platform hasn't exactly been groundbreaking.

There are still many laps left 'til the finish line.

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Re:Magic Leap One now available for $2295 by jvagner on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @04:48PM (#17862747)
Or we remember it like we remember 3D TVs.
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Re:Magic Leap One now available for $2295 by sharkweek on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @06:59PM (#17863668)
I know they barely count, but there was a whole slough of little cardboard boxes you could like... slide your phone into and "experience a 360 VR environment" that seemed like MVPs to me.
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Re:Magic Leap One now available for $2295 by sspyder on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @07:11PM (#17863740)
AR is an order of magnitude harder than VR because of overlaying visuals on top of a view instead replacing/blocking it.
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Re:Magic Leap One now available for $2295 by dzhiurgis on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @04:40AM (#17866715)
On flip side you need 60-120 fps for VR to make it look real. 30 fps and you get sick.

Where as on AR you can tolerate even 15fps without getting sick.

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Re:Magic Leap One now available for $2295 by gowld on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @05:26PM (#17863055)
It's new tech. It's not for you to keep in your closet. It's for hotels and arcades and parties and other such rental use cases.
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Re:Magic Leap One now available for $2295 by scosman on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @05:56PM (#17863283)
It's called the "creator edition". I'd dare to say this release is targeted at devs/creators.
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Re:Magic Leap One now available for $2295 by killerpopiller on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @05:32PM (#17863101)
I remain sceptical and feel reminded on the 3D-Displays in the late 90ies from 4D-Vision, later x3d and then opticality. 3D without glasses but no content (except some plugins for 3D-SW) to drive adoption.
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Re:Magic Leap One now available for $2295 by ghaff on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @05:28PM (#17863067)
I'd be skeptical you get sufficient volume with just specialty uses.
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Re:Magic Leap One now available for $2295 by dymk on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @05:57PM (#17863289)
Magic Leap only needs to sell (roughly) 17% as many Ones as Oculus Rifts, to have equivalent sales ($2.3k vs $400 device).

And while their current hardware is expensive, I would bet that their longterm plan isn't to sell devices that cost more than $2000.

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Re:Magic Leap One now available for $2295 by albinofrenchy on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @06:03PM (#17863333)
Equivalent sales is a nonsensical metric between the two. I doubt their profit margin is 5x per device compared to the rift.
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Re:Magic Leap One now available for $2295 by mr_toad on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @10:55PM (#17865133)
It’s less than a top of the line UHD TV.
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