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Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by shawn on Saturday August 25, 2018 @03:31PM (#17842174)
Toilet paper might also be causing hemorrhoids.

Consider that our bodies were not evolved to use toilet paper, and that hemorrhoids are virtually unheard of in third-world countries that lack TP.

(I haven't confirmed that latter claim. It's just something I read once, somewhere.)

Anyone who's been sick and had to go to the loo multiple times in a row will notice how painful it becomes. I'm not sure it would be painful if washing was used rather than rubbing.

My comment here is full of assumptions and wildly unsupported by evidence. But I thought it might be best to post it so that it can swiftly be disproven or shown to have a grain of truth.

The topic is gross, but it's a serious issue that you don't think much about until suddenly you have to.

Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by grok2 on Saturday August 25, 2018 @03:52PM (#17842289)
I think the ideas that hemorrhoids are not prevalent in third-world countries, not using toilet paper for cleanup and that using a western-style commode (and not squatting) is the source of problems is probably incorrect.

I base this on observations on the large numbers of advertisements for hemorrhoid treatment (most magazines, billboards, etc) in India, the fact that most people in India use water for cleanup and on the fact that squatting-type toilets are in common use in India. Again, just observation...

Most likely it's just physiology and diet.

Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by cmurf on Saturday August 25, 2018 @04:12PM (#17842371)
I think it's not the TP as much as it is pushing due to a) constipation which is usually due to a lower fiber diet, and b) not squatting.

https://www.nadialabs.com/pages/how-to-use-the-toilet-correc...

It takes me less time to pass a number 2, than to go number 1. It is not loose, but it is soft and just ... blooop, done. When it's like modeling clay - not getting enough fiber! :-D

Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by wdewind on Saturday August 25, 2018 @05:06PM (#17842568)
Since you're the one bringing this this time up I'll throw this out there: fiber is the source of as many problems as solutions. The idea that high fiber diets are appropriate for everyone is not supported by the science, and there are tons of places where reducing fiber is tremendously beneficial. Look into the FODMAP diet, for one obvious example.
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by allthenews on Saturday August 25, 2018 @03:33PM (#17842187)
I've read that the culprit is not toilet paper, but the face that we sit when we shit, while we ostensibly evolved to squat. So the bowels don't straighten out as they should, and the excessive pushing leads to pressure which gradually causes blood vessels to bulge over time.

Also, baby wipes work for adults too.

Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by fastbeef on Saturday August 25, 2018 @03:37PM (#17842206)
Don’t flush baby wipes, or anything except fences or toilet paper. They clog drains and interfere with the sewage treatment process.
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by strongbond on Saturday August 25, 2018 @03:45PM (#17842250)
I'm guessing that fences might also be a slight problem for the sewer system.
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by mmanfrin on Saturday August 25, 2018 @03:57PM (#17842311)
Just make sure you include a gate.
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by y4mi on Sunday August 26, 2018 @08:27AM (#17845637)
You could always put them through a meat grinder or dissolve them in acid pre flushing! Just don't use the bath for the dissolving. The tub won't keep the acids contained.
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by amelius on Saturday August 25, 2018 @04:25PM (#17842418)
I sometimes use tissues when I run out of toilet paper. I hope that's not a problem ... (?)
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by billh on Saturday August 25, 2018 @04:38PM (#17842464)
Tissues are not designed to break down in water like toilet paper is.
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by sieabahlpark on Saturday August 25, 2018 @11:10PM (#17844008)
Buy backup TP to your TP
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by thatjsguy on Saturday August 25, 2018 @10:55PM (#17843953)
Do you run out of toilet paper often?
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by quadrangle on Saturday August 25, 2018 @04:03PM (#17842329)
flush fences‽ obvious typo, should have been "feces"
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by fastbeef on Sunday August 26, 2018 @10:00AM (#17845964)
Curse you, overly prude auto-correct!
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by TheAdamist on Saturday August 25, 2018 @03:41PM (#17842230)
It's a jobs program for plumbers!
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by baxtr on Saturday August 25, 2018 @05:03PM (#17842554)
Very informative video about this subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbYWhdLO43Q
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by gizmo385 on Saturday August 25, 2018 @05:33PM (#17842688)
Informative is...one way to describe that video...
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by postpawl on Saturday August 25, 2018 @05:11PM (#17842585)
“leads to pressure which gradually causes blood vessels to bulge over time”

Genuinely curious, are there any studies that have shown that?

Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by AznHisoka on Saturday August 25, 2018 @06:16PM (#17842877)
this is one idea I think we can borrow somewhat from third world countries which only have squat toilets (basically a hole in tbe ground)
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by TomMarius on Saturday August 25, 2018 @03:38PM (#17842215)
Well, yeah, if I rub any other place on my skin with toilet paper sufficiently long enough, it starts to hurt. I don't see a reason why it should be different down there.
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by eip on Saturday August 25, 2018 @11:22PM (#17844046)
Copper deficiency combined with pressure causes them.
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by badrabbit on Saturday August 25, 2018 @06:17PM (#17842884)
Curious, can you name one country that lacks toilet paper or where hemerroids are unheard of?
Re:Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt by emodendroket on Sunday August 26, 2018 @06:42AM (#17845267)
You're wiping too hard.