Re:Man sues over Google’s “Location History” fiasco, case co...
by badrabbit on Monday August 20, 2018 @10:35PM
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Things that may or may not be true:
1) Google and other bigtech are essentially private sector branches of the U.S. intelligence community.
2) Google,Facebook and other not-so-famous companies are interested in not just behavioral analytics but also in behavior control and modification.
3) Google and Facebook can do a lot worse and get away with it,so long as they do it slowly. It's not thay they want world domination or just making more money,they're more concerned abour control. Making things more predictable,not leaving important decisions and situations to chance and free will. Of course some individuals have political ambitions (Eric Schmidt's new america initiative for example).
4) Whoever controls them,controls the country and western civilization. Even the greatest men will find that kind of power too difficult to wield without selfish and malicious intent.
It's history stuck in a for loop,rulers vs the ruled.
Re:Man sues over Google’s “Location History” fiasco, case co...
by sverige on Monday August 20, 2018 @07:19PM
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Wow, for once I could be a class member in a lawsuit that I'd actually like to succeed. The only problem I foresee is measuring damages, but it's California, so it might be possible to get them up to a billion. It'll take at least that for Google to give a shit.
Re:Man sues over Google’s “Location History” fiasco, case co...
by mrgriffin on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @05:11AM
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Skimresources is probably an affiliate link thing (although they also try to sell your data to power targeted advertising), see: https://skimlinks.com/
Re:Man sues over Google’s “Location History” fiasco, case co...
by mirimir on Monday August 20, 2018 @09:19PM
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> Until the Associated Press story on August 13, Google's policy simply stated: "You can turn off Location History at any time. With Location History off, the places you go are no longer stored."
Re:Man sues over Google’s “Location History” fiasco, case co...
by arenaninja on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @10:55AM
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I don't have any google applications installed on the iPhone. I use the native mail application connected to gmail for looking at my mail, and the browser has google as the default search engine. That's about it
Re:Man sues over Google’s “Location History” fiasco, case co...
by tinus_hn on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @06:07PM
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Apple Maps does of course not use Google Maps and the Google Maps app doesn’t track your location while you aren’t navigating. No app gets to track your location if you don’t allow it.
This suit is all about alleged this and alleged that and then it’s presented as the truth while there is no proof at all. Perhaps the Android part is going anywhere but my money is on at least the iPhone part disappearing rather quickly. Perhaps the idea is to bully Apple into a settlement with some negative press attention, well good luck with that.
Re:Man sues over Google’s “Location History” fiasco, case co...
by ams6110 on Monday August 20, 2018 @09:04PM
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Yeah I've only been called for jury duty once, but I noticed that any potential juror who seemed to have particular expertise or background in the subject matter of the case was dismissed with a peremptory challenge.
Re:Man sues over Google’s “Location History” fiasco, case co...
by hrktb on Monday August 20, 2018 @09:50PM
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There’s cases where it’s distinctly slower though.
For this article, it might be due to caching strategies, but the non amp loads way faster for me (in perception about a second faster to start to read the article).
Re:Man sues over Google’s “Location History” fiasco, case co...
by craftyguy on Monday August 20, 2018 @08:38PM
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I find the mobile version of arsetechnica much easier to read than the non-mobile version. There's less crap strewn about the body of the text (random plugs for other articles, in-line links, etc)
Re:Man sues over Google’s “Location History” fiasco, case co...
by JoshMnem on Monday August 20, 2018 @09:54PM
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It isn't only about the data. When people visit AMP pages from Google Search, they aren't visiting your site. They are visiting a restricted shell of it that is hosted on google.com with a left-right swipe that takes users off of your site instead of deeper inside it. It restricts your markup and monetization, and is one of the largest threats to the WWW at the moment. The web is supposed to be decentralized. Also, mobile-first doesn't mean mobile-everywhere.
Re:Man sues over Google’s “Location History” fiasco, case co...
by move-on-by on Monday August 20, 2018 @09:47PM
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Google Analytics is easily blocked while still having access to the content. Loading the full content from their AMP servers is an all-or-nothing scenario. It effectively moves Google from being a 3rd party to a 1st party and the content provider becomes the 3rd party instead
Re:Man sues over Google’s “Location History” fiasco, case co...
by kerng on Monday August 20, 2018 @09:59PM
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Google lock in, like Microsoft's MSN idea in 1995... Google wants you to never leave their servers, so they can track much more and much easier. Just bad for a free and open web.
Re:Man sues over Google’s “Location History” fiasco, case co...
by skybrian on Tuesday August 21, 2018 @01:41AM
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Maybe so, but I think it looks better than the regular page on desktop. Instead of header and sidebar clutter, you have whitespace, and it has fewer ads.
1) Google and other bigtech are essentially private sector branches of the U.S. intelligence community.
2) Google,Facebook and other not-so-famous companies are interested in not just behavioral analytics but also in behavior control and modification.
3) Google and Facebook can do a lot worse and get away with it,so long as they do it slowly. It's not thay they want world domination or just making more money,they're more concerned abour control. Making things more predictable,not leaving important decisions and situations to chance and free will. Of course some individuals have political ambitions (Eric Schmidt's new america initiative for example).
4) Whoever controls them,controls the country and western civilization. Even the greatest men will find that kind of power too difficult to wield without selfish and malicious intent.
It's history stuck in a for loop,rulers vs the ruled.
[1] http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4777351-gov-uscourts-...
Source: I used to work there.
Hey, that's because it's in "activity history" ;)
This suit is all about alleged this and alleged that and then it’s presented as the truth while there is no proof at all. Perhaps the Android part is going anywhere but my money is on at least the iPhone part disappearing rather quickly. Perhaps the idea is to bully Apple into a settlement with some negative press attention, well good luck with that.
Please dont post amp links.
For this article, it might be due to caching strategies, but the non amp loads way faster for me (in perception about a second faster to start to read the article).
Some people don't like Google, so they don't want to load pages from AMP servers.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/19/open_source_insider...