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Re:OpenPGPjs has passed an independent security audit by prophesi on Thursday August 16, 2018 @11:27AM (#17775454)
Please, that's not a verified claim[0], and you shouldn't trust any VPN service that isn't operated by you in the first place.

[0]: Plus, it was raised by a competitor, Private Internet Access, so it makes it even more difficult to get the facts straight.

Re:OpenPGPjs has passed an independent security audit by krn on Thursday August 16, 2018 @11:39AM (#17775598)
> Please, that's not a verified claim[0], and you shouldn't trust any VPN service that isn't operated by you in the first place.

The co-founders of ProtonMail were caught providing multiple inaccurate statements about their business practices in that thread, and couldn't deny any of the facts stated by the co-founder of PIA[1].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17262566

Re:OpenPGPjs has passed an independent security audit by close04 on Thursday August 16, 2018 @12:03PM (#17775820)
Which part of the world should any service be provided from to be trustworthy? Let me rephrase, which services are known to have never cooperated with any agency, nor ever being hacked by them?
Re:OpenPGPjs has passed an independent security audit by ltc5505 on Thursday August 16, 2018 @12:18PM (#17775954)
... Facebook
Re:OpenPGPjs has passed an independent security audit by rasengan on Thursday August 16, 2018 @12:08PM (#17775871)
> it was raised by a competitor, Private Internet Access

Focus on the facts. Not the messenger. Secondly, I admire your love of this discussion [1].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17497912

Re:OpenPGPjs has passed an independent security audit by crankylinuxuser on Thursday August 16, 2018 @12:25PM (#17776036)

     1. You are the user in question that is a co-founder for PIA. 
     2. You are a direct competitor to Proton*
     3. "Messengers", especially in the position of founder of the competitor, have significant bias. 
     4. You have a fiduciary reason for them to fail.
     5. user protonmail has noted significant harassment regarding this issue
Im inclined to distrust both of you. I find that your arguments might have merit. But I also see you as a digital aggressor. I don't particularly like either.
Re:OpenPGPjs has passed an independent security audit by krn on Thursday August 16, 2018 @02:34PM (#17777369)
> Im inclined to distrust both of you.

It's neither religion, nor politics. It's tech. You don't need to believe in anything you cannot verify yourself. I have checked most of the statements provided by the co-founder of PIA, and found none of them to be false, even if he sometimes crossed the line of a civil discussion.

Re:OpenPGPjs has passed an independent security audit by rasengan on Thursday August 16, 2018 @12:30PM (#17776092)
Nothing you said here addressed the facts that were provided. Good luck!
Re:OpenPGPjs has passed an independent security audit by prophesi on Thursday August 16, 2018 @01:09PM (#17776518)
I'm sure the poster was addressing "Focus on the facts. Not the messenger."

As was listed, there are plenty of good reasons to learn about the messenger, just like how looking up my comment history will show my propensity for calling this argument out. You know my ulterior motives and where I'm coming from.

Re:OpenPGPjs has passed an independent security audit by yacn on Thursday August 16, 2018 @03:46PM (#17777881)
Well one things certain: I'll never use Private Internet Access after this ridiculous comment from you[0] not even three months ago.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17261149 -- need to have "showdead" enabled in profile

Re:OpenPGPjs has passed an independent security audit by rasengan on Thursday August 16, 2018 @04:13PM (#17778086)
I stand by that statement.
Re:OpenPGPjs has passed an independent security audit by frankzinger on Friday August 17, 2018 @03:29AM (#17780951)
Those types of comments (yours and the general back-and-forth with ProtonMail) make the VPN industry look like it's full of sharks. It's hurting all of you. It makes you look unprofessional. Before seeing this I had a favourable impression of PIA, but not anymore.

EDIT: I'm sure the competition is intense and I'm not sure I would be able to rise above it myself but I think you need to be aware of what it looks like.

Re:OpenPGPjs has passed an independent security audit by rasengan on Sunday August 19, 2018 @09:44AM (#17794278)
It may be full of sharks. Specifically, though, my issues are with the two companies who pretend they are privacy companies and aren’t.

They bring shame to our industry, and further, shame to our cause.

I will stand up against them everyday regardless of what kind of repercussions come to me. That’s what it means to protect people’s privacy.

Cheers!

Re:OpenPGPjs has passed an independent security audit by yacn on Thursday August 16, 2018 @08:21PM (#17779467)
And I stand by mine that I'll never use or recommend Private Internet Access.