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Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by Iv on Sunday August 12, 2018 @11:42PM (#17747889)
Physicist joke: there is only one thing that graphene is unable to do : getting out of the lab.
Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by montecarl on Sunday August 12, 2018 @10:25PM (#17747664)
Its interesting that graphene does have superconducting behavior, but its still does not occur until very low temperature[0]. This is a brand new discovery, so it will be exciting to see how it advances. There are more degrees of freedom to be explored: doping, twist angle, multiple layers, etc.

[0] "The graphene sheets still required temperatures around 1.7 degrees above absolute zero, -456.6 F, to demonstrate superconductivity."

Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by mjevans on Monday August 13, 2018 @01:21AM (#17748161)
I find the newly observed properties to be interesting and hope that they lead to a deeper understanding of superconductivity in general.
Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by azhenley on Sunday August 12, 2018 @11:27PM (#17747856)
Does anyone know how difficult/expensive it is to get something that cold?

It seems like it would be virtually infeasible, but I really have no idea.

Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by Iv on Sunday August 12, 2018 @11:50PM (#17747907)
In terms of costs your thresholds are the boiling points of nitrogen (77K, surprisingly cheap and easy to deal with, even for a hobbyist) and helium (33K, more expensive,scarce, requires more energy to condense). To get lower than that, you need your own cryogenic cascade as I doubt you can easily buy something as ridiculously dangerous as liquid hydrogen (boiling point of 4K, explosive in contact with oxygen).

At less than 2K I think that the only merits of this discovery are theoretical.

I don't think that anyone believes that superconductors below nitrogen temperature have any viability outside the lab.

Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by Dylan16807 on Monday August 13, 2018 @02:26AM (#17748362)
You mixed up the temperatures for hydrogen and helium.
Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by Iv on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @03:06AM (#17756065)
Thanks!
Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by lgats on Monday August 13, 2018 @01:59PM (#17752129)
liquid hydrogen safety https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bFJK5kU_UQ

[it doesn't explode on contact with air]

Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by acjohnson55 on Sunday August 12, 2018 @11:34PM (#17747872)
It doesn't directly answer your question, but you might find this interesting: http://omegataupodcast.net/285-superconductivity/
Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by hyeonwho4 on Sunday August 12, 2018 @11:42PM (#17747888)
It's below the condensation temperature of helium, so they probably cool it by evaporating liquid helium. Sample volume, existing kit, helium recycling loops are going to vastly change the price structure of that experiment.
Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by charleyma on Monday August 13, 2018 @02:42AM (#17748409)
Has there been any commercial use case for graphene yet?

I feel as though I've been hearing about its potential constantly for many years, but can't recall any commercial use cases yet.

(side note - it also reminds me of the many hours I spent using the scotch tape method and looking at my chip under microscope to try and identify graphene...)

Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by ben_w on Monday August 13, 2018 @05:22AM (#17748917)
Apparently it’s already being used for supercapacitors: https://newatlas.com/adgero-ultracapacitor-trailer-kers/4299...
Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by kevinstubbs on Monday August 13, 2018 @01:02PM (#17751579)
Graphene can be used to detect molecules in the air which has applications in air pollution monitoring. https://phys.org/news/2016-04-graphene-based-sensor-air-poll...
Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by JofArnold on Monday August 13, 2018 @08:59AM (#17749691)
Bicycle tyres
Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by puranjay on Monday August 13, 2018 @06:43AM (#17749184)
I think I'm approaching my 10th year anniversary of hearing the wonderful things graphene can do.

Curiously, it might also be the 10th year anniversary of hearing that the graphene revolution is "just around the corner"

That's a long corner to turn

Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by DrBazza on Monday August 13, 2018 @07:21AM (#17749292)
I'll see your graphene and raise you a fusion.
Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by swebs on Monday August 13, 2018 @10:04AM (#17750139)
At least there's progress being made there:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER

Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by TuringTest on Monday August 13, 2018 @07:28AM (#17749313)
Who would have thought the Moiré interference pattern could have a large physical effect? The hexagons generated from the twist shown at the top image form clearly visible long paths.
Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by Terr_ on Monday August 13, 2018 @12:21PM (#17751234)
To recycle some musings from a similar article a few months ago:

> Layperson question] Looking at that moire pattern shown in the 1.1-degree rotated sheets, I find myself wondering about quantum-tunneling. No good reason, just the visual appearance of relative "voids" when the sheets are in-sync.

> Is there any known (or theorized) relationship between superconductors and tunneling? Does the "pattern repeat distance" of those 1.1-degree-twisted sheets come close to some important threshold that relates to electron-tunneling?

https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/82avjf/comment/dv9...

Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by iamgopal on Sunday August 12, 2018 @10:22PM (#17747645)
How far are we from graphene economy ?
Re:Twisting Stacked Graphene Reveals Potentially Powerful Su... by Ygg2 on Sunday August 12, 2018 @11:53PM (#17747915)
Time to economically viable fusion, multiplied by two.