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Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by dvh on Friday August 10, 2018 @01:06AM (#17730817)
17%
Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by mikeyouse on Friday August 10, 2018 @01:15AM (#17730857)
And on one of my favorite charts, that red triangle at the very bottom is about to jump substantially up the Y-axis:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/PVeff%28...

Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by acchow on Friday August 10, 2018 @01:22AM (#17730881)
FTA: "Commercial solar photovoltaics usually covert 15-22% of sunlight, with a world record of 26.6% reached in Japan in 2016."

And yet your linked chart shows datapoints >40%. What gives?

Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by Areading314 on Friday August 10, 2018 @01:33AM (#17730933)
Commercial solar photovoltaics typically refer to "standard" silicon solar cells which have efficiency around the 15-22% range. The 40% cells in the graphic are for materials systems that are much too expensive to be commercially viable.
Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by mikeyouse on Friday August 10, 2018 @01:44AM (#17730986)
Yep, the very high efficiency cells are typically reserved for highly specialized areas where cost doesn’t matter.. You’ll see Boeing’s name a lot near the top of the efficiency list for the exotic cell types, their lab’s website should clue everyone in to what their main purpose is: https://www.spectrolab.com

They list 31% efficiencies for their cells that can fly today which must be near the limit of commercialization / certification. Still pretty good though, that’s 50% more efficient than a standard panel, and at several $10s of thousands per kg into space, clearly worth it!

Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by pvarangot on Friday August 10, 2018 @08:55AM (#17732799)
28/30% cells are common in spacecraft and have been for more than five years, but they are expensive. A little less than 10k for something like 1 square meter only for the cells wouldn't be crazy.
Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by mikeyouse on Friday August 10, 2018 @02:16PM (#17735615)
It looks like Boeing's latest multijunction line ships at 30.7% efficient:

https://www.spectrolab.com/photovoltaics.html#cells_cics

Which seems about right, but what I didn't realize is that they're shipping >40% concentrators too. That's pretty great!

https://www.spectrolab.com/photovoltaics.html#cells_cics

(That last link was supposed to be for the concentrator section at the bottom of that page, but I don't think it's a normal # bookmark)

Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by hedvig on Friday August 10, 2018 @09:07AM (#17732864)
These cells should be available for everyone and not just the 1%.
Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by deadmetheny on Friday August 10, 2018 @12:39PM (#17734814)
These things aren't expensive just for fun. They're usually made of very exotic materials or very difficult to manufacture, hence the prices. They'll go down if they become easier to make.
Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by jandrese on Friday August 10, 2018 @01:19PM (#17735144)
Although in this case those ultra-expensive cells are being built by Boeing for space use. That no doubt includes a lot of flight certification and similar checks. If you were making a version for domestic use the price could probably be significantly reduced.

That said, they would only make sense in places where space is at a premium so people are willing to pay extra for something a bit smaller. That's not especially common in home use.

Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by hevi_jos on Friday August 10, 2018 @04:39AM (#17731640)
This is what NASA could get to power their satellites, at NASA's pricepoint.

Commercial means what you can buy at reasonable prices.

It takes some time from knowing something is possible, experimental technology, like multitouch controlled computers, and companies selling them in the billions, like multitouch being in every Ipad or smartphone.

Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by ksec on Friday August 10, 2018 @01:32AM (#17730926)
multijunctiion.
Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by jabl on Friday August 10, 2018 @02:53AM (#17731226)
Well, isn't this new device essentially a multijunction organic solar cell? That's what I gathered from the BBC article.

I guess the hope is that they will command less of a relative premium compared to multijunction silicon cells?

Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by Brakenshire on Friday August 10, 2018 @04:28AM (#17731594)
Inorganic multijunction devices are very difficult and costly to make, because the materials have to be evaporated into place. Organics in principle can be printed using standard solvents.
Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by innocentfelon on Friday August 10, 2018 @09:02AM (#17732837)
Let’s not forget that many thin-film amorphous silicon devices use multiple junctions as well.
Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by joshuahaglund on Friday August 10, 2018 @01:29AM (#17730914)
The article isn't very good is what.
Re:Organic solar cells set 'remarkable' energy record by hcknwscommenter on Friday August 10, 2018 @01:37AM (#17730957)
No. The >40% are "exotic" in some fashion and very expensive compared to what is commercially available. Think of "hero" cells where the best cell from an entire production run is tested or a cell is produced using techniques that are incompatible with mass production. Now, add in tandem (multijunction) on top of that, and you get to >40%.