Re:Facebook Wanted Gizmodo to Kill Investigative Tool
by Rjevski on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @01:37PM
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An email address can be quite long, enough to pass off as a poem or other form of art which can be copyrighted.
Apple is doing the same with an encryption key embedded in Mac’s SMC chips. The key is something like “our hard work by these words guarded, please do not steal (c) Apple Computer Inc” and is used to decrypt system binaries.
While providing no actual security I guess it gives them a leg to stand on should anyone recreate a machine capable of running MacOS (the OS would not start without this key being in the hardware).
Re:Facebook Wanted Gizmodo to Kill Investigative Tool
by avree on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @03:19PM
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Several machines are capable of running macOS. http://www.osx86project.org is a project focused on doing exactly this. However, these machines do not use SMC chips. They emulate the SMC.
Re:Facebook Wanted Gizmodo to Kill Investigative Tool
by dmitrygr on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @03:36PM
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By including the copyrighted phrase in the emulating kext, and thus violating copyright law. Yes.
Re:Facebook Wanted Gizmodo to Kill Investigative Tool
by Fnoord on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @04:02PM
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That phrase is not copyright infringement. Apple lost that case in a court of law.
Re:Facebook Wanted Gizmodo to Kill Investigative Tool
by Rjevski on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @06:09AM
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Link to the case? if this hack actually doesn't work as far as law is concerned then I'm surprised it's still there.
Re:Facebook Wanted Gizmodo to Kill Investigative Tool
by dmitrygr on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @12:41PM
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This is not a relevant case at all. OSK0 and OSK1 keys were never a secret. But they are a literary work more or less so still copyrightable.
Re:Facebook Wanted Gizmodo to Kill Investigative Tool
by Fnoord on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @12:48PM
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Apple argued it is a trade secret; the judge disagreed with them on that one.
So this poem here:
Your karma check for today: There once was was a user that whined his existing OS was so blind, he'd do better to pirate an OS that ran great but found his hardware declined. Please don't steal Mac OS! Really, that's way uncool. (C) Apple Computer, Inc.
Is not a trade secret.
Re:Facebook Wanted Gizmodo to Kill Investigative Tool
by pferde on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @04:45PM
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Perhaps they need to use a phrase that rhymes (see discussion about using poems elsewhere in this thread).
Re:Facebook Wanted Gizmodo to Kill Investigative Tool
by spacehome on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @01:31AM
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Some poems rhyme; some don't. It's a weird distinction to make, technically speaking, and not one I'm sure I'd hang my hat on.
Re:Facebook Wanted Gizmodo to Kill Investigative Tool
by dirkgently on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @09:39PM
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They could have used "all your rounded corners are belong to us". They had better outcome with courts with that argument.
Re:Facebook Wanted Gizmodo to Kill Investigative Tool
by saagarjha on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @01:12AM
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It's actually "ourhardworkbythesewordsguardedpleasedontsteal(c)AppleComputerInc"-a 512 bit AES key.
Re:Facebook Wanted Gizmodo to Kill Investigative Tool
by fjsolwmv on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @01:36PM
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The EU proposed granting copyright protection to individuals for their content, and HN was in an uproar about it because it would interfere with individuals' ability to copy other people's work freely.
Re:Facebook Wanted Gizmodo to Kill Investigative Tool
by laumars on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @03:34PM
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Rather than user submitted content I was thinking more along the lines of copywriting your contact details and other personal details that companies like to harvest and/or sell to anyone willing to pay.
Unfortunately the real problem isn't so much the concept but rather the cost of hiring lawyers skilled enough to take on multi-million dollar companies.