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Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by haldean on Monday August 06, 2018 @01:55PM (#17699926)
It also looks like the back button is gone... how is that supposed to work?
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by joshuamorton on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:37PM (#17700281)
The back button is now contextual, it appears in apps, but disappears when it can't do anything.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by ptx on Monday August 06, 2018 @04:51PM (#17701680)
What about when an activity in app A opens an activity in app B? Can I still go back to app A's activity from app B's activity?
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by joshuamorton on Monday August 06, 2018 @05:03PM (#17701770)
I just tested this (I think):

I opened a link from fb messenger in chrome. The back button is still there, and clicking it returned me to messenger. So yes I believe so.

Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by DoofusOfDeath on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:01PM (#17699972)
That might not be a bad thing. I've used Android for a while, but I'm not always clear if/when the back button will do in-app navigation vs. return me to the phone's home screen.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by craftyguy on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:41PM (#17700319)
I've always regarded the back button as a completely random thing.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by bmurphy1976 on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:19PM (#17700789)
I've always regarded the back button as the single most important reason why I prefer Android to iOS. Interesting how different people perceive the world.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by ams6110 on Monday August 06, 2018 @08:01PM (#17702830)
I agree. The back button in Android almost always seems to do what I would expect. I'm not an iOS user so my perspective probably doesn't mean a lot, but the occasional times I try to use someone else's iOS phone I have no idea what's going on. Nothing seems intuitive.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by publicfig on Monday August 06, 2018 @03:51PM (#17701123)
iOS's Swipe From Left works differently than Android's (at least 8.1 Oreo's) does, but often accomplishes the same task. It's pretty equivalent to Android's back button in a lot of cases, acting as hierarchical navigation and back to previous screen when applicable. The difference is that it only works within an app, which means it won't kick you back to a previous app (unless it's opened in a web view) and won't take you back to the home screen. I typically found iOS to handle it more elegantly than my <=Android8.1 phone, but I haven't updated to Pie yet to see how it's different.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by craftyguy on Monday August 06, 2018 @04:53PM (#17701699)
I never said I didn't like it.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by monk_e_boy on Monday August 06, 2018 @06:48PM (#17702450)
The random way the back button works -- moving to iOS I didn't miss it. There are plenty of ways to switch apps, or go back within an app.

I thought I'd miss it. I didn't. Now I wouldn't need it on Android.

Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by nine_k on Monday August 06, 2018 @07:34PM (#17702695)
If one app activates another (camera -> album -> photo editor -> share), how do you go back from mid-way if you decided to?
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by sjwright on Monday August 06, 2018 @08:26PM (#17702934)
Because Android features this metaphor, it's used extensively. Because iOS doesn't, it isn't as much. iOS features different metaphors which achieve the same outcomes in different ways, such as pop-up sheets for the camera, album views and share panes.

And in cases where one app does activate another, you can go back one step by tapping the top-left corner of the screen. There's only one level of "app back", but that's plenty since iOS doesn't tend to jump you between apps a lot, and because that navigation isn't co-mingled with other "back" operations.

Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by threeseed on Monday August 06, 2018 @11:10PM (#17703630)
There is a link at the top left of the screen that goes back to the previous app during these "app activates another another" phases.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by what_ever on Monday August 06, 2018 @04:14PM (#17701349)
I don't work on Android but isn't that behavior defined by the Android OS and just apps doing whatever they want?
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by bitmapbrother on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:23PM (#17700143)
In the event you don't like the new gesture based navigation system you can always revert back to the traditional Back, Home, and Recents layout in settings.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by cptskippy on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:52PM (#17700449)
It's now an application navigation function and not an OS navigation function. So in screenshots demonstrating core OS functions it's absent but in screenshots demonstrating Apps it's present.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by mikelward on Monday August 06, 2018 @04:28PM (#17701477)
What are you talking about? I'm using P preview and it's still there. It's also still there in several screenshots at https://www.android.com/versions/pie-9-0/. It's just now hidden when it wouldn't do anything.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by cptskippy on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @09:32AM (#17706397)
I haven't been following P development very closely. It looks like they added it back in Beta 3.

https://news.softpedia.com/news/android-p-beta-3-returns-the...

Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by Anon1096 on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:03PM (#17699988)
It's not gone in all of the screenshots the home, back, and menu button are all still there. I think swiping up is just going to be an additional feature to reach the new recents+home row screen.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by nsriv on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:22PM (#17700137)
Running it on my Pixel 2XL, the new navigation pill is strictly optional.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by mikelward on Monday August 06, 2018 @04:24PM (#17701453)
Nope, it's just hidden on the home screen where you're already as far "back" as you can go.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by ASinclair on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:02PM (#17699977)
The back button shows up when you open an app.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by phalangion on Monday August 06, 2018 @01:58PM (#17699946)
Probably the same way it works on iPhone, where developers incorporate navigation into the apps.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by vxNsr on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:34PM (#17700254)
Until apps adapt what is one supposed to do?
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by mikelward on Monday August 06, 2018 @04:29PM (#17701488)
Nothing. It's still there. It's just hidden when it wouldn't do anything.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by smnrchrds on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:03PM (#17699990)
I can see the back button in two of the screenshots.
Re:Introducing Android 9 Pie by uncleartraveler on Monday August 06, 2018 @02:01PM (#17699973)
The back button is not gone. Yet.