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Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by theshrike79 on Thursday August 02, 2018 @05:22PM (#17675587)
At what point did "Meme" start to mean any image with text in it?
Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by Nadya on Thursday August 02, 2018 @06:22PM (#17675972)
I'm an ancient meme historian. I specialize in memes before memes became dank.

The definition transitioned from "viral internet jokes" to "image intended to be funny". Some memes are just edited screenshots of Twitter posts or other viral images. "Text intended to be funny" is a subset of memes referred to as "greentext"; due to 4chan quotes being used for storytelling and the text being green.

The transition period went from Image macro --> Demotivational Posters --> Trollface/Rage Comics --> 4 panel comics --> Memes. This took place over the time period of 2004-2009 and really took off with sharing images over Twitter as the ability to get a viral image became easier.

Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by 2bitencryption on Thursday August 02, 2018 @07:07PM (#17676192)
> I specialize in memes before memes became dank.

Now's my chance to ask a professional: when did memes become "dank"? Mid-2012?

Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by Nadya on Thursday August 02, 2018 @07:15PM (#17676235)
Sometime in 2014 a Reddit post became popular using the gnome child from Runescape [0]. This was likely the first dank meme and a catalyst for what was to come. Using Google Trends [1] you can even identify that late 2013 a few people were already looking for dank memes, but it wasn't until late 2014 when memes started becoming dank.

The dankest they ever were was in October and November of 2016 - they've become less dank over time but the economists over in /r/memeeconomy keep their eyes out on /r/dankmemes for the latest and dankest memes to add to their portfolios.

It's a thriving industry with lots of karma to be had - it takes experts to identify a dank meme before it is ripe.

[0] https://vgy.me/lCZkJ0.png

[1] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%...

Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by dplgk on Saturday August 04, 2018 @12:52PM (#17687540)
Memes were dank way before that. Even on reddit. Scumbag Steve, etc.
Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by joeblau on Thursday August 02, 2018 @05:25PM (#17675614)
Exactly

    Image Macro != Meme
But I think we lost this battle.
Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by sp332 on Thursday August 02, 2018 @05:38PM (#17675687)
They're expanding beyond just image macros. Especially the surreal ones, or https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/deep-fried-memes
Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by SteveParker60 on Thursday August 02, 2018 @06:04PM (#17675871)
GIGANTIC SCREEN-OBSCURING POP-UP. INSTANT BACK BUTTON.
Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by drb91 on Thursday August 02, 2018 @06:04PM (#17675867)
What's a macro?
Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by astura on Thursday August 02, 2018 @06:15PM (#17675934)
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/image-macros

"The term "image macro" was first coined in Something Awful[2] in 2004. In the forums, users could summon a number of default image macros using simple commands like [img – macro], for example, timelines, "Aces!" and "Captain Obvious to the Rescue!" images. The name is derived from the computer scientific definition of a macro: a rule or pattern that specifies how a certain input sequence should be mapped to an output sequence according to a defined procedure. The earliest definition of an image macro was submitted by SomethingAwful forum user Eclipse[3] on February 12th, 2004."

Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by drb91 on Thursday August 02, 2018 @06:23PM (#17675979)
But image "macro" memes are far older than the internet--consider the classic cat meme, 'Hang in there!': https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51TQ1YdQYNL...

Hell, you could consider print advertising to be a form of image "macros". We need a better name that is descriptive or at least doesn't sound so abstract and far removed from the virality/humor aspect.

Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by brian-armstrong on Thursday August 02, 2018 @05:46PM (#17675730)
"As Memes Evolve, Journalists Are Struggling To Keep Up"
Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by Varcht on Thursday August 02, 2018 @06:12PM (#17675922)
The self described "first online meme generator", memegenerator.net. Showed up circa 2009, so, before that?
Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by dokem on Thursday August 02, 2018 @05:40PM (#17675696)
A meme is anything that traverses socially.
Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by Jedd on Thursday August 02, 2018 @06:33PM (#17676036)
> A meme is anything that traverses socially.

Even if that's a sufficient and satisfactory explanation, it doesn't address either the claim of TFA, or parent's question.

What app do you use to traverse socially ... ?

Text overlaid on an image is not inherently a meme - even if the bot that made it shares it on instagram.

Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by Kagerjay on Thursday August 02, 2018 @05:59PM (#17675830)
Probably around the time more complex "infographic" memes started surfacing, to my knowledge these are fairly new (1-2years).

Memes have always been short and simple

Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by jklinger410 on Thursday August 02, 2018 @05:31PM (#17675648)
Memes are a meme twilightzonetheme.wma
Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by fouc on Thursday August 02, 2018 @06:17PM (#17675951)
memes are memes of memes.
Re:What's the Best App for Making Memes? by 21 on Thursday August 02, 2018 @05:30PM (#17675639)
About the same time with "drone" and "crypto".

Language is defined by usage, not by what you think is correct.