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Re:Intel patches new ME vulnerabilities by turblety on Sunday July 22, 2018 @10:55AM (#17587052)
Finally? That ME thing should be nowhere near private and confidential data. There's constantly bugs being found in it [1][2]. Honestly if you are a large company, organisation, government, etc and you are using Intel or AMD products, then you are being very irresponsible. There is no excuse, enough information is out there that even a non-technical CTO should know better.

1. https://www.wired.com/story/intel-management-engine-vulnerab...

2. https://wccftech.com/intel-management-engine-not-fixed/

Re:Intel patches new ME vulnerabilities by sametmax on Sunday July 22, 2018 @01:50PM (#17587885)
What i don't understand is how they managed to avoid to be sued to death after this. Not only the initial mistake, but their attitude after it.

Certainly state actors, and militaries, have somebody somewhere being crazy mad about this and the right pay grade to act.

Re:Intel patches new ME vulnerabilities by throwaway2048 on Sunday July 22, 2018 @12:30PM (#17587540)
There is quite literally no viable alternative to x86 for 95% (more like 99.9%, but I am being generous) of the server and workstation market. Pretending like there is and anyone choosing x86 is irresponsible is just being a smug fool.
Re:Intel patches new ME vulnerabilities by turblety on Sunday July 22, 2018 @03:54PM (#17588598)
I would say the server market could easily adapt to Arm, Power or RISC. However I would concede it's very difficult to replace the desktop/laptop workstation. However Chromebooks are making great strives on this. Yes, they are still sending lots of data to Googles servers, but they do a lot of opensource work. Look at coreboot with depthcharge, which can give you a pretty free (not 100%) Arm notebook.
Re:Intel patches new ME vulnerabilities by ianmunoz on Sunday July 22, 2018 @01:47PM (#17587877)
The newest super computer, summit, ranked as the largest/fastest runs ppc64le which definitely creates an argument that there is an alternative to x86 for servers.
Re:Intel patches new ME vulnerabilities by selectodude on Sunday July 22, 2018 @02:29PM (#17588066)
Things that run on super computers tend to be developed specifically for that exact computer so they can use whatever they want.
Re:Intel patches new ME vulnerabilities by PeCaN on Sunday July 22, 2018 @01:33PM (#17587827)
POWER is actually competitive on price/performance now.
Re:Intel patches new ME vulnerabilities by floatboth on Monday July 23, 2018 @02:07PM (#17594535)
Eh… Not for the home enthusiast workstation market.

The CPUs are actually kinda reasonable (Raptor sells the 8-core for $595, which is only $95 more than the launch price of the Ryzen 1800X).

But the lite mainboard is $1,099.

That's 5-10 times more that a board for Ryzen. And a lot is missing on the "lite".

Re:Intel patches new ME vulnerabilities by PeCaN on Monday July 23, 2018 @02:29PM (#17594708)
Context here is "server and workstation market".

The Ryzen 1800X is not a comparable CPU.

Re:Intel patches new ME vulnerabilities by Dylan16807 on Monday July 23, 2018 @04:44AM (#17591398)
Huh? This has nothing to do with x86.