Re:Is Vertical Farming Really the Future of Agriculture?
by oh_sigh on Friday July 06, 2018 @12:16AM
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Regarding #2, I wonder if it may be possible to get greater than 100% efficiency here by panels absorbing a wide spectrum of light, but only emitting on the certain frequencies that are generally most beneficial for growing/fruiting plants?
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Re:Is Vertical Farming Really the Future of Agriculture?
by woah on Friday July 06, 2018 @12:32AM
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That would require the solar panel to be more efficient at capturing solar energy than a plant
Re:Is Vertical Farming Really the Future of Agriculture?
by llukas on Friday July 06, 2018 @12:37AM
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Aaand this is true! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthetic_efficiency
1-2% of best plants vs 22% of best commercial panels! :)
Re:Is Vertical Farming Really the Future of Agriculture?
by nicholas73 on Friday July 06, 2018 @01:48AM
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This is not exactly correct. The link explains why by breaking down the stages of efficiency loss. The solar panels only mitigate the first step, so you are look at 22% vs 47% for plants. Then, the 22% is not including losses from converting the electricity to lighting (or heck, the energy to create those panels in the first place).
LEDs can select the most favorable wavelengths however so maybe it can approach parity again.
Re:Is Vertical Farming Really the Future of Agriculture?
by Gravityloss on Friday July 06, 2018 @02:17AM
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You could generate chemically costly preproducts for the plant synthetically too to help its efficiency.
Things like increasing CO2 and providing at least nitrogen.
But while you are at it, you could directly to synthetic food... Hydrogen, methane, formaldehyde, sugars.
Re:Is Vertical Farming Really the Future of Agriculture?
by vackosar on Friday July 06, 2018 @11:39AM
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Sounds like the best solution mid term, before we'll be uploaded to computers. :)
Re:Is Vertical Farming Really the Future of Agriculture?
by mcbits on Friday July 06, 2018 @02:12AM
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I wonder if it's really necessary to convert the light to electricity as an intermediate step. I'm imagining a filter that's mostly transparent but has a fluorescent coating to convert UV to visible light that the plants can use, effectively brightening the sun in the useful part of the spectrum. Unfortunately Google is giving me the wrong kind of results for "fluorescent filter".
Re:Is Vertical Farming Really the Future of Agriculture?
by nicholas73 on Friday July 06, 2018 @09:28PM
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The material you are looking for is called a scintillator. It converts higher energy photons to visible. Of course it has its own issues / cost. Plus, you have to get the light from the rooftop to plants.
Re:Is Vertical Farming Really the Future of Agriculture?
by jsilence on Friday July 06, 2018 @01:40AM
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But you are not getting rid of the low plant efficiency. any other losses will simply come on top. nothing beats direct sunlight.
Re:Is Vertical Farming Really the Future of Agriculture?
by vackosar on Friday July 06, 2018 @11:37AM
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I guess that it may be possible. The plants probably have hard time optimizing for this and just eclipsing or poisoning other plants is better strategy for them.
You would however be also limited with efficiency of the lamps.