How an Engineering Company Chose to Migrate to D

Re:How an Engineering Company Chose to Migrate to D by acehreli on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @04:26PM (#17359428)

You never said "C" but perhaps you think there is "a reason" why C still exists too. The only reason ineffective tools like C exist is because there are people at the other extreme from those kids: Not take any risk but stick with tried and wrong tools.

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Re:How an Engineering Company Chose to Migrate to D by coldtea on Thursday June 21, 2018 @04:14AM (#17363083)

Nope, there are tons of other reasons.

Huge pool of programmers. Huge pool of libraries. Tons of existing code that should continue to run. Excellent documentation. Very fast compilers. Debuggers and profilers a plenty. Top notch vendor support. Choices of IDEs. Works great in embedded. Predictable.

The alternatives being what, e.g. Rust, a 5 year old language with a single implementation that still tries to find its place, and brings extra baggage to the table?

>Not take any risk but stick with tried and wrong tools.

Engineers don't take risks. You wouldn't want risks in the people building your bridges and planes, why would you want in your OSes and network infrastructure?

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Re:How an Engineering Company Chose to Migrate to D by blub on Thursday June 21, 2018 @10:21AM (#17365351)

Rust, D or Go could be alternatives, but they have limitations in certain domains and types of projects.

C++ doesn't though, and that's why traditional C projects switch. At least in automotive it seems to be the language of choice.

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Re:How an Engineering Company Chose to Migrate to D by protocode on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @05:13PM (#17359832)

C still has it's place. It's not glamorous, but it works. COBOL has no decent replacements. Yet. Some have tried. Almost all have failed. Old does not mean useless. If it works, then it's not wrong.

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Re:How an Engineering Company Chose to Migrate to D by pjmlp on Thursday June 21, 2018 @01:54AM (#17362473)

On UNIX clones and embedded developers that won't take anything else even at point gun.

.NET, Java are good COBOL replacements.

http://www.fujitsu.com/global/products/software/developer-to...

https://www.microfocus.com/products/visual-cobol/

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Re:How an Engineering Company Chose to Migrate to D by coldtea on Thursday June 21, 2018 @04:16AM (#17363097)

>.NET, Java are good COBOL replacements.

Not even close.

As for the links, those are still about COBOL the language.

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Re:How an Engineering Company Chose to Migrate to D by pjmlp on Thursday June 21, 2018 @04:32AM (#17363176)

I guess you need to inform yourself about migration projects that use those products to bring COBOL codebases to modern platforms, where new features are then written in Java/.NET languages, while the old working code is left as is.

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Re:How an Engineering Company Chose to Migrate to D by coldtea on Thursday June 21, 2018 @08:11AM (#17364351)

Nobody argued that new features could be "written in Java/.NET languages".

Not even that COBOL codebases could be bridged and work "left as is" alongside those.

The main objection was with the word "good".

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Re:How an Engineering Company Chose to Migrate to D by pjmlp on Thursday June 21, 2018 @08:26AM (#17364442)

Except you have your definition of "good" and I have mine.

This statement is meaningless without additional information.

> COBOL has no decent replacements.

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