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Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by exelius on Monday June 18, 2018 @12:17PM (#17339401)
Buy a few thousand followers from a click farm and see if the responses start to change. That’s honestly the best way to establish yourself if you’re serious; everyone is defrauding everyone and nobody cares because they’re all getting rich.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by freehunter on Monday June 18, 2018 @12:22PM (#17339447)
I've thought about it. It's a risk/reward thing, though. I like doing this, and I'd hate to be exposed as a fraud because then my passion project comes crashing down and what do I have left?

I guess that's the downside to trying to make money from a hobby. Either it stays a hobby that you don't make money from, or it becomes a second job and stops being a hobby.

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by wolco on Monday June 18, 2018 @04:24PM (#17341405)
Or sell your own products or link to affilate products where you get a cut.

Ignore the emails.

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by skinnymuch on Monday June 18, 2018 @12:35PM (#17339570)
Won’t this really hurt for anyone who looks beyond just follower count? The ratio of your followers with your engagement (likes, comments, shares) will be pretty bad.

For those that look at that, they’ll be more turned off than a smaller following count but good engagement ratio.

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by sgtmas2006 on Monday June 18, 2018 @01:02PM (#17339783)
It can, but you can also find some that sell the accounts themselves, allowing you to falsify a network. Think taking accounts and re-purposing them from being a modern, pop-culture following network to one that is tech-oriented, or more obscure. If you're planning on inserting yourself in this method, you really need to be in control of it all yourself. Follow the major people in your industry, with added randomness to remove following some, while adding randomness to extend the network further.

Keeping the network healthy is one of the more interesting topics. Simulating a real network is the biggest thing. It's very easy to embed yourself, unless it is that closed of a network.

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by 794CD01 on Monday June 18, 2018 @12:54PM (#17339712)
Thankfully, you're not the first person to think of this, so there are also many ways to buy fake engagement.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by CodeSheikh on Monday June 18, 2018 @04:48PM (#17341580)
Do this and risk getting buried deep in Instagram trending and popular accounts. A quick rule of thumb is say you have 1M users but you are only getting likes in few hundreds per post than that means you bought most of your users from a click farm. Marketers have evolved as well.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by jocro on Monday June 18, 2018 @05:15PM (#17341753)
Buying likes and comments instead of just followers is trivial stuff, and makes it far harder to distinguish bought fame from real fame[1]

[1] https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexkantrowitz/people-are-turning-t...

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by programmarchy on Monday June 18, 2018 @12:29PM (#17339516)
Aren't fake followers easy to uncover? Pretty sure there are analysis tools that look at follower engagement, growth patterns, etc. to determine legitimacy. You risk blowing your reputation as soon as anyone does a modicum of due diligence. Seems better to just grow organically.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by collyw on Monday June 18, 2018 @03:55PM (#17341168)
I don't see the sort of people following influencers to be so savvy.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by brianwawok on Monday June 18, 2018 @05:16PM (#17341763)
The people PAYING influences are.

So I think the circle is you buy followers to look popular, and fake real people into following you. Then you delete the fake followers and then have real followers to sell.

Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by exelius on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @03:32PM (#17358892)
Yup; but like anything, you gotta fake it till you make it. Fake followers aren’t considered so much of a black mark in the industry but a sign you haven’t quite made it big yet, but you’re hustling.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by neves on Monday June 18, 2018 @01:08PM (#17339842)
It is easy if you are a sophisticate internet user. All the other people will be impressed when you boast your amount of followers.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by tajen on Monday June 18, 2018 @03:04PM (#17340806)
So it will be easy for journalists and naysayers. Pretty much the most powerful people against you...
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by VectorLock on Monday June 18, 2018 @03:44PM (#17341095)
It seems the trend is to dismiss these discoveries by saying it was somebody trying to push negative reputation on their brand or get back at them. How do you go about directly proving the individual bought clicks and not just inferring based on the patterns of their followers?
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by benatkin on Monday June 18, 2018 @03:13PM (#17340863)
It's easy to deny. If it was a clear bad mark against an account to have fake followers, anyone could buy fake followers to discredit their competition.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by ryantbrown on Monday June 18, 2018 @04:00PM (#17341208)
It’s all about the engagement rate so buying followers doesn’t really help. Platforms will usually cutoff anyone with low engagement for their followers count.
Re:Just How Much Money Do “Influencers” Make? by erik_landerholm on Monday June 18, 2018 @10:46PM (#17343437)
Who’s getting rich? “they’re all getting rich,” huh?