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Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by jimmy1 on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:23PM (#17322192)
Or Charlotte. Or RTP. Or Austin. Or Phoenix. Or Chattanooga. Or all the other various wonderful places to have satisfying lives and careers and not pay astronomical rent. Seriously getting sick of hearing about the renting woes. Give them the middle finger and move. It's not worth it.
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by e40 on Friday June 15, 2018 @04:30PM (#17323285)
Or Charlotte

That's getting to be a joke. My dad lives in a suburb (about 20 miles away) and it is so built up with new housing there are constant traffic jams everywhere. They have improved some of the roads (they are constantly working on them), but the number of new houses going in far outstrips the capacity of the roads. What used to be drives of a few minutes now, during the day, are often 30 minutes to an hour. None of the local cities are willing to deal with the issue, so it's just going to get worse and worse.

Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by anothergoogler on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:36PM (#17322306)
Availability and pay of tech jobs is a sore spot for Charlotte and Chattanooga. I'd enjoy living in either (especially for the high quality internet service in Chattanooga), but employers have major leverage in these places. I don't consider full-time remote employment an acceptable alternative.
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by jimmy1 on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:42PM (#17322360)
> Availability and pay of tech jobs is a sore spot for Charlotte and Chattanooga

? I live in Charlotte, and there is no shortage of 90-135k$ salaried jobs with full benefits, especially if you code in C# or Java. That salary range is _more_ than enough for the house of your dreams, and the ability to be the sole provider for your family if you wish, (however being a DINK is pretty fun, too).

For comparison, I have heard 90k in Charlotte is like 135k in NYC and 150k in the bay area.

Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by anothergoogler on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:49PM (#17322423)
A quick Stackoverflow job search shows seven postings in the past month. Two of them are what I would consider regular software engineering jobs. That's horrific to somebody who's worked in a healthy job market where, after a layoff, you can land another good job in a matter of days. Also there's the matter of career fulfillment. In Charlotte, you can either work for a startup for 60-90k or a soul-grinding finance job (or similar) if you want more. There aren't many of the former positions either.

RTP is a much better proposition in that part of the country. Similar cost of living and a real software industry.

Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by panzagl on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:43PM (#17322892)
So I know people who work as devs at banks- they live in big houses, work reasonable hours, have families and kids and hobbies like restoring cars or fishing. How is that more soul-grinding than working 10 hour days at some SV unicorn for imaginary equity with an hour commute to a one bedroom apartment?
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by liveoneggs on Friday June 15, 2018 @04:15PM (#17323167)
it must be fun to hang out with your roomate in your 40's
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by liveoneggs on Tuesday June 19, 2018 @03:28PM (#17349599)
google has (two or three?) atlanta offices (going by your username)
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by jimbofisher1 on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:40PM (#17322344)
Bbbuut the ecosystem of the Bay Area and my Stock Options.... /s
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by anothergoogler on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:01PM (#17322541)
And you dismiss those things because...?
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by jimbofisher1 on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:26PM (#17322739)
Because there is more to life than income and being surrounded by sweaty nerds?
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by hello_newman on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:38PM (#17322854)
fair enough, but if that's something you believe, you're on the wrong website.
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by jimbofisher1 on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:44PM (#17322901)
Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not. I definitely see HNs pro-at all costs-SV bias but I think it's a website dedicated to tech news and not income maximization? Oh and I can't smell any of y'all so that isn't really an issue.
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by Nuzzerino on Friday June 15, 2018 @06:03PM (#17324013)
Erm, there is plenty of content here that doesn't imply endorsing the false paradise narrative of San Francisco.
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by stephenhuey on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:51PM (#17322965)
I've been on here for many years and a lot of the most interesting insights I've gleaned have come from people who do not prioritize income above other things in life, plus a lot of the really interesting people on here are not sweaty nerds.
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by 18pfsmt on Friday June 15, 2018 @06:47PM (#17324352)
I find many prolific, long-time contributors to HN do not live in SV. I'd also say there's a heck of a lot more stories on social issues and politics.

On second thought, I think people from SV use pseudonyms (and throwaways) more significantly.

Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by aphextron on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:44PM (#17322380)
>Or Charlotte. Or RTP. Or Austin. Or Phoenix. Or Chattanooga

All of which are wonderful places for a centrist/libertarian/conservative white person to live. I dream all the time of having that luxury. Maybe things will go back to normal some day. But the political climate in this country has made practically any red state unlivable for someone like me.

Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by jimmy1 on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:46PM (#17322402)
Maybe it's not such a bad time to turn into a centrist considering the liberal meccas seem to be the places where people are struggling the most: http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/384536-the-great-exodus-o...

Or, if you really want to influence change and impact the country, staying in a dark blue state and living within an ideological bubble isn't going to change anything. Charlotte has seen a great migration from blue-collar democrats from the Ohio/PA/NY areas, and I believe PHX is seeing the same from Chicago and surrounding areas.

For me personally, virtue signaling do-gooders with billions of dollars that just happen to live in a city with a crippling homeless problem doesn't sound attractive to me.

Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by aphextron on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:00PM (#17322530)
>Or, if you really want to influence change and impact the country, staying in a dark blue state and living within an ideological bubble isn't going to change anything.

I really don't want to influence or impact anything. I just want to live a happy life where I don't fear getting murdered at a traffic stop for the color of my skin.

Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by jimmy1 on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:07PM (#17322601)
Contrary to popular opinion, there are many more people of color being murdered at a traffic stop in blue states than red states, so not sure what you are trying to poke at here. Maybe the KLS shooting? That was the only incident in my entire time living here I can think of. The fact that that was done by an officer of color doesn't seem to dawn on anyone, or that maybe it was actually justified, but anyways, I think you have your mindset made up and there's no point in trying to argue against the narrative. I just want to tell you, being someone not white myself and lived in red states most of my life. You face the occasional ignorant comment ("go back to where you came from, foreigner!") it's nothing compared to the crime that occurs daily in NYC, Chicago, or the Bay Area, so I think your chances are better down here.
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by monocasa on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:33PM (#17322796)
Atlanta has shit like this going on.

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-drug...

They train the cop to look for impairment signs of marijuana, and guess what, if the blood test comes back negative, then it's the position of the DA and the police department that it's the blood test that's wrong. Surprise, he primarily pulled over black people.

We've also built a new baseball stadium, but it doesn't have access to the city's public transit system because as the county commissioner said "we don't want to invite a certain kind of person here". The transit system, MARTA, is known as "Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta".

And don't get me started if you're Hispanic or Middle Eastern. Brown is the new black is the saying.

Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by scarface74 on Friday June 15, 2018 @04:54PM (#17323469)
I’m sure anyone can find anecdotes anywhere about overzealous cops. But I’m Black live in Forsyth [1] and I’ve never had any issues.

[1] Yes this Forsyth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WErjPmFulQ0

Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by liveoneggs on Friday June 15, 2018 @04:17PM (#17323183)
somehow I manage to never visit Cobb
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by anothergoogler on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:15PM (#17322673)
Charlotte has a pretty high rate of violent crime...
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by briandear on Friday June 15, 2018 @07:44PM (#17324730)
Is that statistically a rational fear? You are more likely to die in a car accident than in a traffic stop.
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by scarface74 on Friday June 15, 2018 @04:48PM (#17323427)
I’m at most centrist definitely not conservative or White and I’ve been a software developer in Atlanta for 20+ years with no issues finding jobs, I just bought a newly built 5 bedroom 3-1/2 bath 3000 square foot house for around $300K in a good school district and I’m 20 minutes away from the northern business district (Alpharetta).

There is life outside of SV and great salary vs cost of living.

Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by wu-ikkyu on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:03PM (#17322558)
Have you actually been to those places before, or are you just assuming they're all saturated with bigots? Austin is known for being a very liberal city.
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by briandear on Friday June 15, 2018 @07:48PM (#17324748)
And Houston is one of the most diverse cities in the country. Black mayor, also a former lesbian mayor. Conservative country leadership, liberal city leadership and it balances out fairly well. You aren’t tripping over heroin addicts shooting up on sidewalks, not are you dodging human shit or getting harassed by mentally unstable homeless people as you might in San Francisco.
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by yongjik on Friday June 15, 2018 @04:37PM (#17323343)
I studied in Chapel Hill ~15 years ago and I remember that area as pretty liberal. IIRC, during the Iraqi War when the Congress was busy renaming french fries to freedom fries, the city of Carrboro had a "consume French goods day".
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by superdude264 on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:31PM (#17322782)
CLT, RTP, and Austin are all fairly liberal leaning.
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by t3h2mas on Friday June 15, 2018 @04:26PM (#17323253)
Denver / Seattle may be alternatives for those looking for blue
Re:Nation’s top three most expensive places for renters: all... by briandear on Friday June 15, 2018 @07:43PM (#17324723)
Austin is more liberal than San Jose.