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Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by gameshot911 on Monday June 11, 2018 @11:26PM (#17290495)
I think this is a unique view, but I've come to appreciate nearsightedness. Partially because I like having the ability to soften the external world by removing my glasses (like wrapping myself in a warm fuzzy blanket), but even more so because it grants me the ability to see things near me in sharper focus than someone with 20/20 vision.

I can put on contacts or glasses to see something at a distance just as clearly as someone with naturally perfect vision, but someone with 20/20 vision would strain to view something as close to their nose as I comfortably can. (Great for reading!)

I fully admit that this perspective is borne out of my attempt to find the good in a conventionally undesirable situation. But having found it, would I trade it? I don't think I would...

Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by titzer on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @03:24AM (#17291355)
As a person who recently wore contacts every day until dry eyes and an injury forced me to switch back to glasses, I have almost entirely the opposite experience. It bothers me to wear glasses again. My prescription is quite strong, so it creates a pretty significant distortion, stronger towards the edges of the lenses. It's hard to do sports, as I now have a background fear about losing/breaking them, and the distortion messes with my hand/eye coordination. I had an episode skiing where I actually got nauseous from disorientation. As a result I do far less sports and that leads to other things. Ultimately, it has kind of screwed up my sense of scale of things, too, because the glasses make everything appear a bit smaller.

When I take off my glasses the distortion goes away, of course, but I can't read street signs, see people's expressions, watch movies, and other things. Watching an incredible sunset or mountain scene with my own eyes...it's like looking at a 200x100 pixel image Gaussian blurred to fill the whole field of view.

I might agree with you if my prescription is less, but TBH I wish I could get rid of these damn spectacles.

On the other hand, it did teach me a bit about philosophy. E.g. now I realize that to see the world "clearly" I require lenses, I just never noticed before. All of my perception is actually through lenses, not just my eyes. Touch, taste, smell, feeling, all distorted by my senses. And it feeds into my mind, the biggest, most distorted lens of all :)

Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by pm90 on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @11:12AM (#17293997)
If you don't mind can you share how your contacts damaged your eyes? I wear daily disposables almost everyday and sometimes forget to remove them at night... is that how you damaged your eyes?
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by titzer on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @02:24PM (#17296306)
In my case my eyes just kept getting drier and drier, and that eventually caused conjuctivitis (inflammation of the eyelid and the covering of the eye). It was mistaken for an eye infection originally. Conjuctivitis + contacts led to an injury of the epithilium, either caused by the contacts literally bonding to and ripping off the epithilium, or by debris being caught and scratching, unable to be washed away due to lack of moisture. The symptoms were cloudy, blurry vision, itchiness, sensitivity to light, and pain. Cloudy vision and pain are f'in scary.

In my case I ended up with lesions that had to be treated with antibiotics, lubricating gel, and a kind of "bandage" contact lens, since the inflammation of the eyelids can cause further damage of the eye.

Please do be careful with your eyes. Don't sleep in your contacts, use lubricating drops, and if you feel debris or other discomfort, take them out!

I was lucky thanks to antibiotics warding off any potential infection. An infection coupled with an injury can threaten your sight. The prognosis is generally pretty good for minor epithilium and corneal damage, usually. For me, it was mind-alteringly painful, but after healing my vision is pretty much perfect with the glasses I had before. Despite being annoyed by my glasses, I am truly thankful that I can see! It is hard to communicate what 2 weeks in a dark room with the question of blindness stirring in your head can make you face.

Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by dilap on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @06:32AM (#17292073)
not a candidate for lasik?
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by titzer on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @07:20AM (#17292271)
No, given that my eyes are already so dry, and this plus contacts led to me injuring my corneas on more than one occasion, one of which meant I spent ~2 weeks in a dark room, essentially blind. So doctors recommend I do not do Lasik. :(
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by dilap on Thursday June 14, 2018 @02:13PM (#17313952)
ah bummer. yeah i had noticable dryness after mine, which went away only after a few months.

contacts are really dangerous, and i feel like this is not emphasized nearly enough. i didn't even realize that as a contacts-wearer until i started to research lasik (i learned that wearing contacts was more likely to end up causing me vision problems than lasik, which is what convinced me to get it).

Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by tormeh on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @09:30AM (#17293013)
What about Lasek? Generally has less complications and less invasive, but takes more time to heal.
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by titzer on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @02:30PM (#17296377)
I am not going to risk it at this point. Both involve cutting through the epithilium to get at the cornea underneath, and in my case some of the cells that pump moisture through the epithilium were damaged or destroyed, so it's even more of a risk than for most people.
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by enobrev on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @12:02AM (#17290624)
This is the _one_ thing I miss about getting my eyesight fixed. Within a month of getting laser surgery, it was so natural that I'd essentially forgotten the experience of glasses and contacts, as though I'd never experienced the previous 20 years with them.

One of my very favorite things to do before then was sit in Central Park, or at the Diversey Rocks in Chicago, or anywhere with lots of color, remove my glasses, and just enjoy the blur of it all. It was very calming. An escape from all the details around me, which immediately translated to an inner calm.

I still prefer my perfect vision, and I paid a lot more than I could afford when I had it done to make sure it was done well. But I do very much miss that old shortcut to a quick and simple calm.

Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by freddie_mercury on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @12:15AM (#17290667)
Why not just buy some glasses that blur up your vision? And then go put them on in Central Park?
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by placeholderNam on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @12:31AM (#17290709)
As a glasses-wearer who understands the parent commenter: the all-encompassing vision granted by taking off the glasses (which cover ~60% of our regular view) is what makes for the wholesome, nice feeling OP is talking about.
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by chrfrasco on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @12:23AM (#17290690)
make sure they're rose-tinted too
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by Sharlin on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @10:33AM (#17293599)
You can train your eye muscles to focus at whatever distance without needing something to fixate on. This allows you to blur your vision at will simply by focusing close.
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by SomeHacker44 on Thursday June 14, 2018 @01:22PM (#17313357)
Only until presbyopia sets in, starting in your 40s and completing in the early 50s (usually).
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by ars on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @12:35AM (#17290719)
You could force your eyes to blur and achieve the same effect.

It's easier to do if you are tired, if you've never done it before. Crossing your eyes slightly also helps (then hold the blurry focus and uncross them).

Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by dandelany on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @12:50AM (#17290775)
The continuous effort required to force blurring pretty much negates the calming effect, I think.
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by ianai on Monday June 11, 2018 @11:35PM (#17290527)
I tell people I could walk through a room of naked people and not see anything private.
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by jcadam on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @12:58PM (#17295229)
Bah, my eye Rx is -8.5 diopters. Taking off my glasses/contacts doesn't "soften" the external world - it makes me unable to function. If I forget where I put my glasses after taking out my contacts at night before going to bed, I have to call my wife to find them for me. If I try moving around too much, I'm liable to hurt myself.

I'll probably want to get LASIK at some point :)

Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by aschneid on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @02:34PM (#17305822)
I was at that point when I had it done. The only problem with having that bad of an eyesight, they have to use the laser for longer. It helped I had extra thick corneas, but the surgeon I went to said some folks can't have the surgery with eyes that bad.

Of course, that was 15 years ago, so maybe different guidelines now.

Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by gm-conspiracy on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @01:06PM (#17295321)
I am -7.5 and agree w/ GP, especially for identifying SMD components and other details.

But, yes, sometimes I need help finding my glasses, too.

Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by reitanqild on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @02:58PM (#17296704)
Both eyes worse than -6.

I use special always-on contacts since 5 years ago or so, change them once a month. This reduces the hassle a lot.

Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by wlll on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @05:36AM (#17291887)
I have the same situation. When I take my glasses off and move stuff close to my eyes (really close, like around ~4cm) it's like looking through a microscope.
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by wccrawford on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @01:08PM (#17295352)
I wrote a huge comment in reply to someone else, but I had this "superpower", too, and wasn't told that I'd lose it after having my vision corrected. I miss it.
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by dbtqgoat on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @01:21AM (#17290896)
I do the same when I feel disillusioned with superficial beauty. Really pretentious, I know. Either way, it feels good to reduce people to blobs every once and a while. I sometimes get too distracted by looks, so being able to turn that off is nice.
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by amorphous on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @09:20AM (#17292926)
You are under 40 I assume? That's not gonna last forever
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by pps43 on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @10:36AM (#17293619)
Nearsightedness does not go away after 40 (presbiopia does not cancel out myopia).
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by amorphous on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @12:16PM (#17294752)
I meant "viewing something as close to my nose as I comfortably can" won't last long.
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by pps43 on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @05:26PM (#17298178)
People like myself with both presbiopia and myopia can still comfortably view something close to the nose (without glasses).
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by Shikadi on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @08:09AM (#17292501)
I don't think near sightedness means better than 20/20 up close...
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by teh_klev on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @09:21AM (#17292933)
Personal anecdote...depends on your age. I'm near sighted (blind as a bat since my teens) and up until I was ~45'ish still had perfect 20/20 near sight vision. Up close I could read the tiniest of print and perform tasks and repairs on very small assemblies (I'm talking sub-millimetre PCB work and modelling). As I've gotten older this has gotten harder and these sorts of tasks now demand the use of a magnifying glass. This could probably be corrected with the use of varifocal lenses but for now I get on fine with a magnifier.

Apropos the Lasik treatment, in my early 20's vanity got the better of me and I wore contact lenses for a time. There were also practicality reasons because I'm a biker and ruined several pairs of glasses trying to stuff the legs into my helmet. Anyway, I contracted an eye infection which over the period of a month affected both eyes and could have resulted in loss of sight in one eye. The doc reckoned I'd picked this up from the lenses despite me being totally anal about keeping them clean. I never wore contacts again. Despite the annoyance sometimes of having to wear eyeglasses, my eyesight even with its less than perfect capabilities, is too valuable a sense to lose. Despite all the Lasik success stories it bothered me enough that I might just be that unlucky sod it doesn't work on and could end up worse just for the sake of convenience and vanity.

Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by AngryData on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @09:54AM (#17293234)
It depends on the cause but if the only thing wrong is your eyes are focused to closely, then you will have better vision up close because you have better magnification from the shorter focused lens.
Re:Lasik’s Risks Are Coming into Sharper Focus by nomocrypto on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @09:13AM (#17292858)
Heh, I do this too. It’s great after I’ve been staring at a screen for hours, although I also take my glasses off when using a computer because I really only need them For distance. I definitely feel like it helps my eyes relax a bit more to have my glasses off.