Re:Supreme Court Sides with Baker Who Turned Away Gay Couple
by rblatz on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:32AM
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I tend to agree at a high level, but what if the baker refused to bake for black people? Is that still ok? What if it wasn’t a baker, but a grocer or a pharmacist? What if it’s the only baker in town? Where should the line be drawn, and why there?
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Re:Supreme Court Sides with Baker Who Turned Away Gay Couple
by PurpleBoxDragon on Monday June 04, 2018 @01:21PM
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Isn't the issue not refusing the group, but refusing work related to the group? Say there was a bakery that refused to make a NAACP cake, but which served people of any race from their normal selection of cakes? Even if one was to say that is wrong, it seems less wrong than fully denying any service to a person.
Re:Supreme Court Sides with Baker Who Turned Away Gay Couple
by overcast on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:35AM
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This Latino place down the street serves the best rice and beans ever, they also wont server you if you're wearing pants falling off your ass(literal sign). The 7-11 won't serve you unless you're wearing a shirt, and shoes. Businesses can server whoever the hell they want.
Re:Supreme Court Sides with Baker Who Turned Away Gay Couple
by givinguflac on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:38AM
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Your statement is quite ignorant. There is a massive difference between business-specific dress codes (both of your examples), and discrimination based on the way a person was born.
Re:Supreme Court Sides with Baker Who Turned Away Gay Couple
by sirclueless on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:39AM
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Inadequate clothing is not a protected class under the Civil Rights Act. Hence there are major legal differences between refusing to serve a person because they are black, and refusing to serve a person because they are shirtless.
Re:Supreme Court Sides with Baker Who Turned Away Gay Couple
by overcast on Monday June 04, 2018 @03:44PM
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Sexual orientation is also not a protected class under the Civil Rights Act. Hence the topic.
Re:Supreme Court Sides with Baker Who Turned Away Gay Couple
by toiletfuneral on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:38AM
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So if a person stops being gay while they’re in the bakery, do they get a cake?
Everything you just described as criteria for refusal was by personal choice.
Re:Supreme Court Sides with Baker Who Turned Away Gay Couple
by overcast on Monday June 04, 2018 @01:48PM
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Religion is a personal choice, and protected. Sexual orientation is not protected by law.
Re:Supreme Court Sides with Baker Who Turned Away Gay Couple
by wang_li on Monday June 04, 2018 @12:09PM
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They could have gotten a cake if they had been willing to get one that didn't specifically express the homosexual nature of the wedding. The baker had no problem selling them a generic cake, the issue was that he didn't want to make a cake that expressed a message he disagreed with.
Re:Supreme Court Sides with Baker Who Turned Away Gay Couple
by jhall1468 on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:39AM
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No they can't. Exposing your ass and being shirtless aren't protected classes. You can't refuse service because someone is black, because it is a protected class.
Re:Supreme Court Sides with Baker Who Turned Away Gay Couple
by bokstavkjeks on Monday June 04, 2018 @12:31PM
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Pants falling down your ass isn't a protected class, so that's not really a fair argument.
Re:Supreme Court Sides with Baker Who Turned Away Gay Couple
by dangoor on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:39AM
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Those rules are based on behavior within the establishment, rather than who you are.
Re:Supreme Court Sides with Baker Who Turned Away Gay Couple
by overcast on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:42AM
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How I wear my clothes, is a part of who I am correct? What if baggy pants is part of my religion?