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Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by perl4ever on Saturday May 26, 2018 @01:39AM (#17160421)
Perhaps, perhaps, but (a) I think I've seen this sort of thing before, and (b) your interpretation nonetheless contradicts the statement that using the site is agreeing, and (c) I'm not in the EU.
Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by bad_user on Saturday May 26, 2018 @01:49AM (#17160447)
GDPR doesn't work like that, the user has to explicitly opt-in.

So the website has to block users that don't explicitly agree, a simple statement won't do.

There are exceptions, GDPR having the notion of "legitimate interest", which many services will try to abuse, however it has a precise definition and user tracking, ads targeting, marketing, or other interests like that that don't cut it, even if by not doing so results in less revenue for the service.

The GDPR has teeth, which is why companies that have been violating user privacy are freaking out ;-)

Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by JumpCrisscross on Saturday May 26, 2018 @09:25AM (#17161881)
> GDPR doesn't work like that

We don't know how GDPR works. Its structure grants immense discretion to political bodies. Given the EU is undergoing another cycle of political weakness, it would not be safe to assume anything about interpretation or enforcement.

Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by Moter8 on Saturday May 26, 2018 @09:32AM (#17161914)
GDPR is formulated in this way, because good laws are not special and well-"explained", they have to be general so you can apply them to almost everything.
Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by JumpCrisscross on Saturday May 26, 2018 @09:41AM (#17161951)
> good laws are not special and well-"explained", they have to be general so you can apply them to almost everything

This is a good principle for Constitutional law. It's a bad principle for general law, as it introduces political uncertainty and authoritarian risks into everything.

Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by setquk on Saturday May 26, 2018 @10:19AM (#17162157)
That is the idea. Increase the risk and arbitrary non viability of loopholes. No one will touch it so the only way to move forwards is minimal risk.
Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by csomar on Saturday May 26, 2018 @11:47AM (#17162639)
In my experience this just opens or expands corruption. You pay your way to be able to be "approved" by the authority.

For example, the legitimate interest. Who determines that? The authoritaa. But then the authoritaa might approve Google and disapproves small-naughty-trackor. Both are doing the same privacy invasion. So why one gets a free pass and another is reprimanded.

Even if the current regulator (persons) are honest, they are not irreplaceable. Maybe the guy after them will be corrupt. And since there is a lot of money here, money corrupts.

Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by icebraining on Saturday May 26, 2018 @12:52PM (#17162986)
Which is why the authority can be appealed.
Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by Mirioron on Saturday May 26, 2018 @11:50AM (#17162656)
"Minimal risk" in business means not actually doing business or doing business in a way that doesn't make you liable, eg blocking EU users.
Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by freeflight on Saturday May 26, 2018 @07:53AM (#17161553)
> (b) your interpretation nonetheless contradicts the statement that using the site is agreeing

IANAL but implied consent, by visiting the site, is not enough anymore. Consent must be explicit and informed, afaik there are a few exceptions there for stuff that's "vital to the sites function".

Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by Entalpi on Saturday May 26, 2018 @03:36AM (#17160704)
There seems to be common misconception that GDPR only applies to the geographical region that is the EU, this is false. GDPR applies to all Europeans, independent of location.
Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by hk__2 on Saturday May 26, 2018 @05:18AM (#17161060)
I thought this, too. But it does depend on location:

    * If your company is EU-based, you must comply with GDPR, whatever the location of your users/clients
    * If your users/clients are EU-based, idem
    * If your users/clients are EU citizens located abroad, it applies *only* if you target EU as a market. If you operate a website dedicated to sell t-shirts to Californian people, and an EU citizen living in California buys from your website, you aren’t expected to comply with GDPR.
Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by TheForumTroll on Saturday May 26, 2018 @04:42AM (#17160923)
No it does not. It covers data in the EU. Being from the EU but using for example a US service while you are in the US means you are not covered. EU law doesn't cover people not inside the EUs borders.
Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by kokx on Saturday May 26, 2018 @10:33AM (#17162242)
With one exception, when your business targets EU markets, EU citizens abroad are still covered.

For example, when you are a EU citizen using a US social network that operates world wide (and thus also targets EU markets), you are still covered when in the US.

Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by icebraining on Saturday May 26, 2018 @12:57PM (#17163008)
Where is that defined? The word "citizen" doesn't even appear in the law.
Re:GDPR: Programmatic ad buying plummets in Europe by azernik on Saturday May 26, 2018 @05:47AM (#17161157)
This is false. See Article 3 (Territorial Scope):

"""

1. This Regulation applies to the processing of personal data in the context of the activities of an establishment of a controller or a processor in the Union, regardless of whether the processing takes place in the Union or not. [i.e. EU companies, or EU subsidiaries of foreign companies, have to obey GDPR with all data they deal with]

2. This Regulation applies to the processing of personal data of data subjects who are in the Union by a controller or processor not established in the Union, where the processing activities are related to: [foreign companies dealing with the data of people physically inside the territory of the EU have to follow the GDPR if...]

(a) the offering of goods or services, irrespective of whether a payment of the data subject is required, to such data subjects in the Union [they're offering services to those people]; or

(b) the monitoring of their behaviour as far as their behaviour takes place within the Union. [they're tracking what those people do in the EU - but tracking what they do abroad doesn't trigger GDPR!]

3. This Regulation applies to the processing of personal data by a controller not established in the Union, but in a place where Member State law applies by virtue of public international law. [it applies to businesses in places with weird legal status, like some overseas possessions, or maybe the Channel Islands]

"""