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Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by alkonaut on Friday May 25, 2018 @11:04AM (#17154372)
Hopefully what will happen is that it will be more expensive to advertise and publishers will earn more on dumber ads

Obviously if ads are less targeted then they may be less effective so advertisers will make less on ads that cost more. This will hurt their bottom line, which in turn will make the products we buy more expensive. But that's exactly the end goal. I want to pay for things (information, products) with more money rather than with slightly less money and all my integrity.

Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by fixermark on Friday May 25, 2018 @11:21AM (#17154542)
That's a sad outcome.

I remember the tedium of non-targeted advertising---it's what ultimately pushed me away from most traditional print and broadcast media and online. Targeted advertising occasionally brings me information I actually want; non-targeted advertising feels like such a waste of everybody's time.

I hope someone takes on the experiment of opt-in GDPR compliant ads.

Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by pishpash on Friday May 25, 2018 @04:36PM (#17157713)
Targeted advertisement can be done if the user is entirely in control of the data and the consent process. No one would be against that. This is a technical problem that can be solved, there was just no incentive to do it. Now perhaps there is.
Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by kenjackson on Friday May 25, 2018 @11:37AM (#17154722)
It would be nice to give people the option. I personally would love everything to be free, and show me ads instead. I don't see how my integrity has anything to do with it.
Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by lajhsdfkl on Friday May 25, 2018 @12:55PM (#17155566)
>Obviously if ads are less targeted then they may be less effective so advertisers will make less on ads that cost more. This will hurt their bottom line, which in turn will make the products we buy more expensive. But that's exactly the end goal. I want to pay for things (information, products) with more money rather than with slightly less money and all my integrity.

I'm sure you considered all the poor people across the world that are subsidized by the ad driven model we use today. What we truly need on the internet is data gated behind pay walls to protect important information such as which facebook groups you clicked like on.

Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by danieldk on Friday May 25, 2018 @01:35PM (#17156069)
I'm sure you considered all the poor people across the world that are subsidized by the ad driven model we use today.

A lot of them are poor, because we don't want to pay a decent amount for the products that we consume and instead rely on people working in sweatshops in third-world countries.

You don't solve poverty by giving them 'free' products that require them to give you all their private data. You solve poverty by giving people a decent wage, so that they make these decisions themselves.

Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by jimmaswell on Friday May 25, 2018 @02:27PM (#17156562)
This is a false dilemma. There's no reason we can't both work towards better wages for everybody and support cheaper services for poor people in the meantime.
Re:GDPR: US news sites unavailable to EU users over data pro... by amaccuish on Friday May 25, 2018 @02:37PM (#17156668)
So us having our right to privacy using paywalls, means that we deprive those less well off of valuable information. Or everyone forfeits their right to privacy for free stuff. I'm sure there's a middle ground here.