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Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by fredley on Thursday May 24, 2018 @10:40AM (#17144383)
> “VPNhub is free and unlimited, anonymous and easy to use, [...] a good number of [people] use [VPNs] to circumvent and bypass restrictions to access adult content. It only makes sense that they use Pornhub’s.”

So wait, as a UK citizen I can use Pornhub's VPN to circumvent the UK Government's "Porn Filter", a system that's run by..... Pornhub.

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by mediocrejoker on Thursday May 24, 2018 @10:44AM (#17144438)
>So wait, as a UK citizen I can use Pornhub's VPN to circumvent the UK Government's "Porn Filter", a system that's run by..... Pornhub.

I had no idea that PornHub is in charge of filtering adult content for the UK government. Got any more info about this relationship?

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by stuaxo on Thursday May 24, 2018 @11:14AM (#17144789)
A scheme, where other porn companies can pay them - and if they can't afford it, go out of business.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by monkeynotes on Thursday May 24, 2018 @12:29PM (#17145634)
I don't really understand how a country can ask a website to comply with its laws if the content is not hosted in that country. I guess it could be asked to comply under threat of being blocked in response to non-compliance.

It's such a weird area.

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by travmatt on Thursday May 24, 2018 @12:59PM (#17145987)
If you change ‘website’ to ‘business’ and ‘hosted’ to ‘headquartered’ it’s straightforward and just as accurate.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by thomasahle on Thursday May 24, 2018 @01:20PM (#17146202)
You could also argue it's like a shoe company based in the US, where UK people are ordering from them and asking them to ship it to the UK, while UK government threats to set up import restrictions.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by Immortalin on Thursday May 24, 2018 @10:17PM (#17150146)
GDPR cough
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by bausshf on Friday May 25, 2018 @06:01AM (#17152001)
GDPR is not issued by a country though, but a commission.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by nailer on Thursday May 24, 2018 @10:45AM (#17144451)
Duckduckgo 'Mindgeek age verification UK'
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by brettz on Thursday May 24, 2018 @11:07AM (#17144700)
Mindgeek has an age verification product to comply with the UK law but by no means is in charge of age verification in the UK, there are several competitors with their own age verification products.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by nailer on Thursday May 24, 2018 @11:30AM (#17144963)
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/porn-age-verificati...

> AgeID, has been developed by MindGeek, a company that also owns several pornographic websites including Pornhub, RedTube and YouPorn.

> AgeID currently uses official documents such as driver's licences and passports to verify a person's age - but submitting a mobile number tied to a contract phone could be another option.

> The tool is due to be implemented from April 2018 across all adult sites within the UK in accordance with The Digital Economy Act 2017 that was laid out by the government.

It will be regulated by the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC).

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by LinuxBender on Thursday May 24, 2018 @03:28PM (#17147410)
It would be so much less overhead to require adult sites and user content driven sites to simply add the RTA adult header and put the responsibility on parents to use parental control software.

It looks like this:

    rating RTA-5042-1996-1400-1577-RTA
and it can be sent via http headers, or embeded in web pages.

Requiring people to register with PII is just asking for trouble.

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by TheCoelacanth on Thursday May 24, 2018 @11:55PM (#17150491)
Yeah, but that doesn't allow them to slip in authoritarianism via the backdoor.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by LinuxBender on Friday May 25, 2018 @12:45PM (#17155459)
Good point.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by brettz on Thursday May 24, 2018 @12:03PM (#17145310)
The third point is incorrect. It will be implemented on Mindgeek sites and any other sites that wish to use it instead of the competing age verification products.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by merinowool on Thursday May 24, 2018 @01:26PM (#17146249)
Such site should be illegal. I find it extraordinary that government lets private company record such sensitive information.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by wffurr on Thursday May 24, 2018 @02:03PM (#17146614)
Now tell me how you feel about US credit rating agencies, which were started by former FBI agents after the FBI was restricted from keeping dossiers without cause.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by chimeracoder on Thursday May 24, 2018 @12:51PM (#17145881)
> a system that's run by..... Pornhub.

The system was mandated by UK law. Mindgeek isn't the only provider that makes an age verification service, though they are the largest (since they own most of the largest pornographic brands on the web).

David Cameron was the one who pushed for the law that put all of this into effect; Pornhub isn't remotely responsible. They're just creating a verification service that they're now legally required to run to comply with the law.

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by stephenr on Thursday May 24, 2018 @10:45AM (#17144444)
Huh? A porn site company runs a porn filter? Surely the individual ISP's have devices in their DC that filter the specified things?

Edit, so after reading - the filter is less a filter, and more mandated age-check verification? Isn't that like claiming a guy checking ID's at the door to a pub is an alcohol filter?

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by geofft on Thursday May 24, 2018 @12:12PM (#17145410)
That's a pretty good analogy, because nobody thinks that bars employing bouncers to check ID is some sort of conspiracy or conflict-of-interest.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by DINKDINK on Thursday May 24, 2018 @03:36PM (#17147510)
Strictly speaking, it is classified as a conflict of interest.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by geofft on Thursday May 24, 2018 @04:58PM (#17148351)
It's a conflict of interest in that it's in the bars' (financial) interest to let people through.

It's not in the bars' financial interest to create a minimum drinking age via regulatory capture just so they can hire bouncers, or accept bribes or sell fake IDs or whatever. That's analogous to the insinuation I picked up upthread (if I read that comment correctly). Expecting industries to self-regulate until they show themselves incapable of doing so is pretty standard.

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by kelnos on Thursday May 24, 2018 @04:16PM (#17147933)
It is, but in practice it doesn't matter too much. In most (all?) jurisdictions in the US, bars can be fined pretty heavily or even lose their liquor license if they're caught serving people illegally, or if they even have people on the premises without their ID with them. Any extra revenue they might generate from letting in underage people isn't worth the risk of the consequences if caught.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by mark_edward on Thursday May 24, 2018 @05:05PM (#17148405)
Lol. You've never been to a college town I take it?

It's a gigantic conflict of interest that plays out exactly how you'd expect. I've never been carded going to a bar near my former university.

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by jon__k on Monday May 28, 2018 @12:42AM (#17170634)
I live in a town with 3 colleges in SC and regularly see breweries card people. I've never been carded, but anyone with a young face is an automatic.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by mark_edward on Monday May 28, 2018 @07:07AM (#17171782)
You're right, I'm generalizing unreasonably. But I think can say that this is a problem. I don't think it's a particularly lawless town.

Breweries and bars might be different too

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by esrauch on Thursday May 24, 2018 @02:13PM (#17146724)
The difference is that essentially no one minds a guy glancing at their id and handing it back, and no one cares if your coworker happens to see you going into a bar.

The law is a filter because of the obvious chilling effect: do you really want to risk an inevitable leak where your co-workers will potentially look up info about your porn habits tied to your real name?

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by stephenr on Thursday May 24, 2018 @02:17PM (#17146775)
> do you really want to risk an inevitable leak where your co-workers will potentially look up info about your porn habits tied to your real name

Why would it have your 'habits' tied to it? It's meant to ensure you're over 18 or whatever age - what possible reason would it have to identify individual URLs a particular identity visited?

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by esrauch on Friday May 25, 2018 @02:50AM (#17151223)
Without this verification you have high confidence no one can know. After this, you are suddenly trusting companies to do the right thing.

Renting a porn vhs and having the guy photocopy and file your ID is a much bigger deterrant than just having to show your ID to the clerk.

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by programbreeding on Thursday May 24, 2018 @02:41PM (#17146995)
>what possible reason would it have to identify individual URLs a particular identity visited?

Money. Marketing. Targeted advertising. Etc, etc, etc. Pornhub (and others) are completely free and use more bandwidth than I can wrap my head around. How do you think they pay for that stuff?

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by alsetmusic on Friday May 25, 2018 @03:43AM (#17151451)
> Pornhub (and others) are completely free and use more bandwidth than I can wrap my head around. How do you think they pay for that stuff?

Pornhub sells a subscription service with additional features / content.

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by brettz on Thursday May 24, 2018 @04:00PM (#17147741)
The ID verification is done by trusted third parties. There will be no link to a name and any browsing activity on Pornhub.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by mykmallett on Thursday May 24, 2018 @07:39PM (#17149452)
The age verification is done by pornhubs own company, to think they won't use this information seems incredibly naive.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by brettz on Friday May 25, 2018 @12:10PM (#17155095)
Incredibly naive? I work for Pornhub, the last thing we want to handle is PII, it brings no value and has security risks.
Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by mtgx on Thursday May 24, 2018 @10:43AM (#17144416)
Wasn't the porn filter supposed to be enabled by default, but optional for adults? As in the adults could change whether or not they could see the porn, at will?

I believe there was some bureaucracy involved and maybe a "porn tax" you had to pay to disable the filter, but maybe this VPN service effectively solves both of those problems.

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by fredley on Thursday May 24, 2018 @10:46AM (#17144464)
No, the Age Verification system (recently delayed[1]) is compulsory that porn sites must implement to be able to trade in the UK. It requires that they perform age verification on everyone accessing the site from the UK. This verification would be performed by supplying ID and linking it to your account.

This is separate from ISP supplied filters in that it applies to the porn companies themselves, not the end consumers. Obviously a company like Mind Geek having your ID and all your porn browsing history is not worrisome at all.

1: https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/03/age-verificati...

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by pavel_lishin on Thursday May 24, 2018 @10:45AM (#17144445)
> maybe this VPN service effectively solves both of those problems.

Sure, for the low, low price of $12/month.

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by w0m on Thursday May 24, 2018 @11:29AM (#17144951)
> VPNhub is free and unlimited, anonymous and easy to use, ...

Though I didn't actually RTFM, was posted elsewhere here.

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by zrobotics on Thursday May 24, 2018 @02:38PM (#17146969)
From the article: "there is a premium subscription available that gets rid of the ads and promises faster speeds. In the U.S., this will cost between $12 and $14 per month, depending on the platform."

So unlimited free use, but restricted speed and injected ads. Not horrible, but I'd definitely read the T&C very carefully, I didn't see any mention of what logs they keep.

Re:Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app by pavel_lishin on Thursday May 24, 2018 @12:39PM (#17145744)
Whoops, how'd I miss that :/