Has wine gone bad?

Re:Has wine gone bad? by gowld on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @06:38PM (#17078526)

Pepsi and Coke consistently taste different from each other and same as themselves.

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Re:Has wine gone bad? by baxtr on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @12:38AM (#17080043)

That’s what I thought. Go and do a blind test. Or read the papers

https://daily.jstor.org/the-coca-cola-wars-can-anybody-reall...

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Re:Has wine gone bad? by drblast on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @02:30AM (#17080401)

I've done the blind test between Coke and Pepsi with a third unnamed diet soda thrown in as a red herring. I can identify each just by the smell. It's not even close.

I literally can't comprehend how blind people must be to tastes that they can't tell the difference.

I also can't comprehend how people can eat anything with vinegar in it or drink IPAs, so maybe I'm just sensitive.

Another anecdote...I know no French, but I had a French wine at a restaurant and commented it reminded me of the smell of the beach in the morning near where I grew up. A more thoroughly educated companion told me that the word Cotes (with some accent I don't know how to type) means "coast" in French, and that was in the name of the wine.

I'm the first one to call BS on elitist snobs but the people who really know wine aren't BSing.

I've found cheap wines to have a higher likelihood of tasting like vinegar Easter egg dye. After about $14 that quality is rare.

That's not to say wine at $60 a bottle is "better." My personal favorite is $18 at Costco. But being able to tell the difference is not BS.

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Re:Has wine gone bad? by cs02rm0 on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @03:52AM (#17080697)

A more thoroughly educated companion told me that the word Cotes (with some accent I don't know how to type) means "coast" in French, and that was in the name of the wine.

Côtes.

The circumflex, at least in French AIUI, often means there used to be an 's' after that letter, i.e. costes which gets you a little closer to coasts (and the Spanish costas).

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Re:Has wine gone bad? by namdnay on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @10:30AM (#17082675)

Your friend was nearly correct. "côtes" has several meanings, in the case of wine it refers to the slopes of a hill/valley (as opposed to the valley floor). Nothing to do with the beach unfortunately :)

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Re:Has wine gone bad? by gowld on Wednesday May 23, 2018 @08:14PM (#17139725)

My memory is from this: http://www.trustmeimascientist.com/2012/01/01/the-zen-art-of...

claiming that in the 1980s, Pepsi was sweeter than Coke, which had an effect in (pseudo-)scientific taste tests.

Note that (not) recognizing which is which, and label biasing, are different from being able to recognize that they are different.

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Re:Has wine gone bad? by dx034 on Wednesday May 16, 2018 @04:50AM (#17080916)

Also did blindtesting with my family. Coke and Pepsi was easy. I always thought no one could tell Coke Zero and Diet Coke apart but two in my family could identify it correctly 5 out of 6 times (I couldn't). We blind-tested several drinks and sweets that day, gives you a good idea where you can stop buying the brand product and where it's actually important.

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